Wednesday, October 25, 2006

Is Mitt Romney Politically Connected To The Mormon Hierarchy?!!

I thought that you guys would enjoy this story. Here's the video and then I'll comment below, with the links and references.

(Here is a link to another video about Mitt Romney that I posted, entitled "Can Mitt Romney, A Mormon, Actually Win the U.S.Presidency?" It was an interview that he did with the local Salt Lake City, ABC affiliate.)

The Boston Globe came out with a story on Sunday, October 22, 2006, plus, there was another one on October 20, saying that yes, he is connected. Also, in his own words, Mitt Romney admitted he was and could be in some trouble, along with the Mormon Hierarchy.

At stake is their precious tax exempt status, which would cost them billions and also the need to reveal their actual income and finances to the world. Now that would really would be wonderful, wouldn't it? I doubt Hinckley and co. would think so!!

Here are some excerpts form the October 20 Boston Globe article:

"Governor Mitt Romney vigorously defended a plan yesterday by his political advisers to develop a network of Mormon supporters for his potential presidential bid, while a former Internal Revenue Service commissioner said discussions among Romney operatives and Mormon Church leaders about the initiative could violate the church's tax-exempt status."

"'Clearly, I'm going to raise money from people I know, and that includes BYU alums, people of my church, people of other churches, Harvard Business School graduates,' Romney said in an interview, as he and Governor Jeb Bush of Florida campaigned for a Republican candidate for Florida's chief financial officer.

Romney's comments suggest that the fund-raising initiative, which his political advisers dubbed Mutual Values and Priorities, or MVP, remained an active effort. On Tuesday, one of Romney's top aides, Spencer Zwick, said the MVP program had been abandoned."

It gets even more interesting in the October 22 Boston Globe article:

"Despite repeated denials by the Mormon Church and Governor Mitt Romney's advisers, e-mails from a key Romney consultant state that the leader of the worldwide church was consulted on an effort to build Mormon support for the governor's potential presidential bid and that a key church leader has been involved in mapping out the plan. One e-mail also describes Romney's personal involvement in the planning.

The Globe reported Thursday that Romney's political team
had quietly discussed the plan with officials from the church and church-run Brigham Young University and that Gordon B. Hinckley, president and prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was made aware of the effort and had no opposition.

A church spokesman said last week that it was nonsense to suggest church leaders were working in any way to aid Romney's political campaign, adding that Hinckley did not know of the Romney initiative to build a nationwide network of Mormon supporters.

But a Sept. 8 e-mail from Romney's Utah-based political consultant, Don Stirling, states that Hinckley and James E. Faust, the church's third-highest ranking leader, knew about the effort from another church leader, Jeffrey R. Holland, who had been in close consultation with Romney operatives about it."

To not think that the Mormon Hierarchy isn't sitting around all giddy, high-fiving each other in the holy of holies, thinking about Mitt Romney being President; would be ridiculous.

Ever since Joseph Smith crowned himself "King of the world" and failed in his attempt to be President of the US; it is all they fantasize and dream about. It would truly be the crowning achievement of Mormonism and they would feel that world domination wasn't far behind, which has been their goal since at least 1830. They would hope that Mitt could get them into those countries that they haven't made it into yet.

There is nothing more that the Mormon Hierarchy would love, than to not only control Utah, but to be in control of the USA and the world if they could be. Everyone has to realize that if Mitt Romney is the President of the USA, whoever the Mormon Prophet is, Gordon B. Hinckley or Thomas S. Monson will be the acting de facto, shadow President.

Do we really want the bigoted, homophobic and clueless Mormon Hierarchy calling the shots for the USA and trying to control world politics?

Can you imagine the sickening photo ops with Hinckley or Monson and all of the trips back and forth between DC and Salt Lake, kissing each others asses? Maybe they could just move the Mormon Prophet right into the Whitehouse, next to Mitt's room; that way, if the Mormon Prophet received any burning revelations in the middle of the night, he could simply knock on Mitt's door and tell him what he needed to do next.

I know that Nancy Reagan was really into astrology, so why not have Mitt using the Mormon Prophet as his personal fortune teller, right? I mean after all, isn't he supposed to talk face to face with God and Jesus, just like Joe did? The sad thing is; there would never really be any revelations and Nancy Reagan probably learned more from her astrology, than Mitt could ever learn from Hinckley or Monson.

Maybe Mitt could just live in the DC temple, with the Prophet, to make sure that the USA and world were being guided 24/7 by Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ. I wonder if Jesus Christ himself would actually visit Mitt, since he is a member of Jesus' "one and only true church" and would be President of the "Promised Land?"

Nah, he'd have to go through the chain of authority and just pass on the information through his Prophet, Seer, Revelator and Mouthpiece. I'm still waiting for the sequel to the "only 1 earring in each ear" revelation, since that was so damn profound and powerful!!

Mitt Romney would push every single Mormon agenda he could while in office and would do nothing without the approval of the Mormon Hierarchy. At least we now know that there is "an official" connection between Mitt Romney and the Mormon Hierarchy, and that they are already working together, which of course they outright and strongly deny, because they are born liars and cult leaders.

It sure is nice though, isn't it, when they get busted with dirty hands in the cookie jar? If they think they are under scrutiny now, just wait until Mitt is "officially running" for President. This could turn out to be the Mormon Hierarchy's worst nightmare come true and they are too stupid, power-hungry and arrogant to even see it.

They are just doing what they do best and what they have always been doing since 1820; LIE!! Joseph Smith was the father of all Mormon lies and the greatest teacher and example they have of how to scam the world.

Do we actually think they will ever admit to their connection to Mitt or to any wrong doing? Will they ever tell the truth about anything? Please!! Hinckley can't even admit that they teach and believe that God was once a man and they've never taken responsibility for "Mountain Meadows Massacre." (They restored John D. Lee's temple blessings in 1961.)

The Mormon cult Hierarchy is corrupt and Mitt Romney would just be another cog in the wheel, to further their agenda of fraud and lies, in my opinion.

Samuel the Utahnite

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Friday, October 20, 2006

Hey Everybody, I Thought It Was Time That I dedicate An Entire Page, To All Of The Hatemail/messages, That I Receive On A Regular Basis!! Enjoy!!

Or was it the alcohol, the sudden, heavy drug addiction, the new early schedule, laziness, fornication, adultery, or just not wanting to confess your masturbation, porno habits and many other sins to the Bishop? It just can’t possibly be that the church isn’t true, right?!!

Well, it has been suggested to me more than once, that I start a page on my blog that is completely dedicated to all of the hatemail and messages that I've received, from those that hate and despise me, hate what I do(exposing the truth) and don't give a damn about what I've gone through or even what "the truth" is.

(I WARN everyone right now, that this page is for those that are 18 or older, as it does contain a lot of adult language, mature themes and descriptions. It's too bad that most of this came from TBMS, isn't it?)

But I agree with you guys that think I should do this and I've wanted to do this for a very long time, but I just haven't had the time to put it together and get it started until now.

This page will be a work in progress, and a real project as it is going to take me a long to time, to go back over the last 14 months and find all of the hatemail that I've received, which is mixed in with all of the awesome Emails and messages. I will be putting the newest messages at the top and then just add onto the bottom, chronologically, all of the older messages, back to the very first one.

I just wanted to post what I have right now and get it started, so that you guys can see what I'm dealing with from some of these TBM Apologists, that probably go the temple on a regular basis.

I have too many comments over on YouTube, to list them all here(I'll try to list the best ones), but you are all welcome to go to my videos, watch them and leave comments too, which requires a quick, free registration process. When you go to this page linked above, it lists my videos right at the top. Just click on any one of the them, and it will take you to the video, the comments and then a listing of all the other videos to the right.

The fascinating thing about these emails and messages, is that after calling me all sorts of names and derogatory terms, telling me to suck this and suck that, a lot of them bare their testimonies about how true the church is, that I need to repent, read Moroni's promise, etc. In my opinion, these folks that do this, are mentally deranged by the very cult that they believe is the "only true cult on earth", need professional help, and I feel sorry for them in that sense.

Sadly, they've probably grown up in the cult since they were babies and know nothing but Mormonism, how true it is and they are taught how evil anyone is that leaves it. Their comments and Emails to me, are a very sad commentary on where Mormonism has left them, which is in their little village in the middle of nowhere, unable to cope with everyday life and people in the "real world."

Also, I've decided that I'm not going to protect the identity of any of these people any longer and I will put up their hatemail, or message, exactly as I got it, including their Email address and names, which in many cases, amazingly, is their correct name.(dumb...dumb...dumb) I will also include links to their homepage, online journal or myspace, if they have one.

If people don't want to be embarrassed publicly, then they shouldn't be writing me these emails and messages, using offensive language and their real names, should they? If people write me an Email of disagreement, even if it's strong and passionate, but respectful, that's fine and I won't include it on this page. Too bad there aren't more people that are capable of doing this.

I'm also going to create a link in my sidebar, that will allow you guys to access this page whenever you want, no matter where it currently resides in the listing of posts. Check back often as I will probably try to update it every few days, once a week, or whenever I get another hatemail or message.

Also, when I have multiple Emails from the same individual, I will put them all together, under one listing, so that it's easier to follow. Of course if the same people leave me a nasty Email once a month, I'll just add the new one to the top of the list.

One other thing; in a section of this post, where I want to make personal comments, I will put my words in blue and their words in red, just so that their isn't any confusion and you can tell who is saying what. I will leave all their comments, exactly as they sent them to me, errors and all. I will also not be editing out their language and F words, because I want everyone to see what is actually being said to me, by these supposed TBMs.

So, for those of you out there, that want to make it onto my "TBM hall of shame" hatemail page, and disgrace and embarrass both yourself and your Church, that you supposedly love so much(or hate so much), fire away!! Let's see just how foul and how nasty you can get and entertain us all please. Show the whole world how true your Church is through your great example and Christlike behavior!!

Just so that everyone is crystal clear; if you write me a hatemail, TBM or ex-Mormon, I do reserve the right to post it on my blog, along with whatever information that is on that Email and will most likely do so. If you don't want it on here, then don't send it!!

With that being said, let's get it started.....drum roll please!!

Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2006 21:24:16 -0500



Subject: Dear Mr Know it all

Ya know, in this world of uncertainty theres one thing that I can rely on. Know nothing losers who perpetuate the truth of mormonism do not add to the exmormon movement. You remind me of Ed Decker, a man I still see as helping the LDS church retain members. Your amateur podcast and constant vommiting blog are a testament to your inability to move on. I still hate the church. I wish it would go away. I wish you would shut the hell up so individuals who want to leave the church can do so without viewing your inane blather. (Why does this clown keep reading it and listening to it then?!! LOL!!)

Just because you can record creed played from a casette player followed by yourt whiny little voice does not mean individuals want to listen to you.

Your biggest fans are evangelical christians. No one in the exmormon community takes you seriously. We know your trying.

We know you just might get over yourself one day. But please PLEASE shut the fuck up.

Who knows, you might read this and realise your life sucks just enough to do something constructive. I'm not holding my breath though.

Listen to Zelph, listen to "the church is not true" podcast. were all trying to tell you something: GO home. Take your toys and go home. THere are better people to convey the message that the LDS church is a corrupt criminal organization. You are not one of these people. You are a boy with a microphone and a bunch of historical docs he culled from google. Whooptedoooo! Your banal!!!! get the fuck over yourself.

And take my phone number off your goddamned blog or I will have a lawyer do it for you.

You give exmormons a bad name.--

Name-XXXXX (I deleted his name and phone number out of common courtesy, because this guy is such a complete embarrassment to himself and his family, as you can see from the above Email.)

Personal Cell -XXXXX

My response:

Date:Mon, 23 Oct 2006 20:33:50 -0700 (PDT)

From:"Samuel the Utahnite"

Subject:Re: Dear Mr Know it all


Hey Vegasbright, you are the disgrace and embarrassment!! You give humanity a bad name and I'm ashamed to think that you are an ex-Mormon. You must help absolutely nobody. How many Emails a week do you get, thanking you for how much you've helped someone? Do you even care? You know nothing about me buddy. Have we ever corresponded?

Why should I remove your number off of my blog, when it sat on Mormon Discussions for over 6 months? Did you forget it was there? Am I responsible for your stupidity? I thought you wanted it out there for people to call you and debate you and take you on, you big hard-ass, tough guy!!

Sorry, I guess it was my mistake to think that was why you posted your personal phone number in the first place, my bad. So, now, you don't want people to call you anymore? What has changed? I thought you'd thank me, being such a tough guy and all and wanting to take on everyone, especially people like me or my supporters!!

I come from a family of lawyers, that would love to take on the case, so if you are gonna be a jerk about it, maybe we should let it go to our lawyers and we can discuss how you made it public knowledge on the Internet, on a discussion board, for all to see, for months and months.

I'm sure that won't help your case, if you know anything about law, which you obviously don't. Do you really want to go that route and battle this out in court? There is an amicable way to do this you know, but you apparently aren't familiar with how to do that or how to ask nicely. Good thing I have a back up of everything as proof, isn't it? I simply copied and pasted the information that you posted and kept a copy of the entire thread.

Now, if you want to humble yourself and not be a jerk about it and ask me nicely to take it down, I'll take it down tonight and we can go our separate ways and it's over. If you want to take the other route, I can do that too. It's funny how you are pissed at me for your own stupidity, isn't it? Maybe you should take your uncontrollable rage and profanity and your finger and direct them at yourself, because you have no one to blame but yourself. Take responsibility for your life and decisions and quit blaming other people for you stupidity.

Oh, by the way, I still get over 15,000 downloads a month on my podcasts and I haven't even recorded one for about 2 months, due to time constraints. Amazing, isn't it, for such a pile of shit like me that knows nothing about anything and isn't helping anyone? I guess you are the Minority James. Did you ever consider that the rest of the world doesn't believe everything or see everything the way that you do? Just a thought for you to consider!! Do you allow for others to do or say things differently than you would, or would you rather live in Communist China and be the dictator? I'm guessing China would work well for you!!

Anyway, best wishes James, grow up and I'll talk to you soon I'm sure!! Also, try to drop more F-bombs in your next email, because I find them very entertaining and it shows what a nice guy you are. LMAO!!


After writing the Email, I decided to be the bigger man and do the right thing(despite the foulness and nastiness of the above Email), by taking his number down, despite his stupidity of posting his personal cell phone number on the Internet, for all the world to see.

I wonder if he ever threatened Dr. Shades for creating a forum that would allow him to leave his cell number and for then leaving it up for months and months after he posted it? I also didn't know if he'd be able to cover the court costs after he lost his case. I just thought I'd cut the guy a break and teach him that it is possible to rise above, even though he probably never does it. I guess it's never too late to learn is it?

I did him the courtesy of removing his real name from the above Emails, but then I noticed that he created a wikipedia for himself, under Vegasbright(easily Googled), where he shares his real name(I think) with the world. Maybe he'll threaten me again, for sharing his wikipedia page? I guess his personal info, that he posts freely on the Internet, is for anyone to read but Mormon Truth readers and listeners.

Date:Tue, 24 Oct 2006 09:11:41 -0500


To:"Samuel the Utahnite"

Subject:Re: Dear Mr Know it all

Dear know nothing loser:I am willing to pay money to have my phone number removed. Keep my blog link though. I'm getting a good deal of hits on my blog generated from it.(Funny how he's getting so many hits from a blog that nobody visits or cares about, isn't it? LOL!!) I do not have to ask nicely, I just have to ask, which I did. I am forwarding your response to my legal representatives. Once again, remove the number or you will recieve a letter from my lawyer.(I guess he didn't check my blog last night or today, because I removed it right after getting his first foul Email.)

This is my second request for you to do this. I did not give you permission to post personal information in a format unbecoming of a friendly post. Legally speaking, the format you posted my info with has nothing to do with you. Your just pissed I stated Why is criticism so hard for you to take? You started this shit so be a big boy and do what is right. Do this or I will take legal action.(I look forward to the letter from his lawyer, I really do.) As for your supposed download numbers, I'm sure the mormon church has more hits on their website than you do. I guess they are "more true" than you are. (LOL!! To be honest, I'm starting to feel bad for this guy.)

ammoman23 (9 minutes ago) October 21, 2006

O.K. I wont claim to know the facts. To be honest, right now my wireless connection sucks so I havent watched the video, but "Sam the nite from Utah", youre an ass. "youre all about the facts" who talks like that? You have obviously been screwed by some Mormon so now you have a mission. Also, I'm willing to bet youre unattractive. Am I right?

ammoman23 October 21, 2006 I'm not going to insult you like everyone else has, I don't even know you, but you seem like you truly hate Mormons. I'm not Mormon, but man, some Mormon must have truly screwed you over. I have seen a bunch of guys just like you on this U tube thing, they say they are just trying to help missguided kids that are being told lies, my question is; why don't you worry about KKK teens instead. If you really were trying to help missguided youth you would be doing it to a demographic that was in more immediate danger, like radical Muslims or something. O, and you are obviously a jaded radical, with more time than usefullness. (sorry, I guess I am insulting you)

ammoman23 October 21, 2006 I'll make this quick cause it is Friday and I dont want to talk you you. I'm sure you will E mail me again and leave messages, but I wont respond, not cause I cant, just cause you are redicolous. Dont leave me a message asking "have you learned anything yet", you are not a teacher, you are an old angry man. I didnt ask for your life story that you left, and I didnt finish reading it. You did however confirm my assumption that you have wayy too much time, and that you are doing this cause a Mormon, or some Mormons burned you in some way. My point was, you are doing this cause you are mad, if your mission really was to help people you would be out in the world helping starving children or burn victims or something, not teaching of the great horrors of the Mormons. (watch out, they have jello mold and book of Mormon, o noooo!)

It's truly amazing when someone who isn't even Mormon or religious, thinks they know so much about what I'm doing and Mormonism, isn't it? He engages me and then doesn't want to talk to me and is offended that I tried to explain myself? It 's obvious that he prefers keeping his head burred in the sand and spouting off with stupid comments that are not based on any facts and calling people an ass. Good luck man on your journey through life and I hope you wake up someday!!

From: jmontague
Videos (2) Favorites (0) Friends (0)

Sent: October 17, 2006, 07:47 PM
Subject: Lets talk

Lets talk Mother fucker my email

From: maalahi1978

Sent: October 06, 2006, 11:25 PM
Subject: dip stik

fuk u u dumb fuk we dont believe in cartoons u dumb fuk yes i am a member and i swear so fuk u dumb fuk


Sent:October 07, 2006, 01:05 AM
Subject:re fuk

u give FUCK a bad name so i choose to use fuk u dumb fuk and i suggest u go and eat a dik u fukhead

From: maalahi1978
Videos (0) Favorites (14) Friends (0)

Sent: October 07, 2006, 01:27 AM

hahahaha just read ur profile u must of been ex pityful cunt go fuk urself you got ex and cant handle the shame i am a member and i am true to myself and my faith i have a few problems but i dont go around talkin shit about my faith u is a big time LOSER!

you poor sap.....what a shame for what is in store for you....
--Posted by Anonymous to Mormon Truth!! at 10/03/2006 02:47:35 PM

Sio4 October 03, 2006-[Private comment] You're probably one of those sickos who kicks it on the web all day looking at little girlies while masturbating your little weenie off with toothpaste. Your fine material is pretty generic too! You gotta come up with something more original if you want to intern for the HELL job. Satan is the best at what he does man! Though quite clever indeed, you old Devil you!

Sio4 (21 minutes ago) -[public comment]
Wow! You guys are all squarer than a box of cracker jacks up in this place! Who the Hell made this rediculous video? Preseident Hinckley was just wonder there's apostates and anti's...God bless all of you L7's!

Date:Mon, 02 Oct 2006 13:37:21 -0500
Subject:POBRE DE TU ALMA!! (Your poor soul)



theskillet111 October 01, 2006
This video is a fine example of what KKK-like hate mongers do with their useless lives and too much free time. Get a life, and stop sucking your own balls. See you in hell.

You are truely a lonely individual with no friends. I can tell you barely made it through highschool by reading the cliffnotes on everything and declaring you've read the whole thing. Get off the hate bandwagon and find some hobbies.


September 29, 2006
I got these two last night over on Youtube, from the same person:

cbaPaul (9 hours ago)
You sir are an arrogant prick! Of course I am not a racist! I nor the church support these awful teachings. And yes those that did teach these things were mistaken and lacked the light and knowledge we have now.

cbaPaul (9 hours ago)
You sir are an arrogant prick...yes I did mean the standard definition of news and I did mean to say that those who taught those awful teachings were mistaken and lacked the knowledge that we have now acquired.


Date:Fri, 29 Sep 2006 23:41:43 +0100
From:"Ned Quimby"
Subject:I shouldn't bother,

but I just can't help but notice that all you guys who leave (or who are exed) from the Church can't do so quietly. You're so embittered that you've got to continue to put energy into it, only in a negative way. And I can only imagine how frustrating it is to know that no one's really listening (I stumbled upon your ranting web site by happenstance). Maybe it was Joseph Smith who said that those who leave the Church can't leave it alone. I guess it's easier than admitting you're wrong and coming back. Cheers.



From:"Jed Anderson"
Subject:In Vain
Date:Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:52:13 -0600

I am not sure if you have read this before, but it may save you some time in the future as you try to stop something that is impossible to stop:
The Standard of Truth has been erected. No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing. Persecutions may rage; mobs may combine; armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country and sounded in every ear; till the puposes of God shall be accomplished and the great Jehovah shall say, "The work is done," (History of the Church, 4:536). You are fighting a battle that cannot be won. You do not have a hallowed hand! Sorry to break that news to you.


"Jed Anderson"
Subject:RE: In Vain? Oh, you mean your Email to me was in vain?
Date:Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:12:29 -0600

(Matthew 13:18-30.)
18 ¶ Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.
19 When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
20 But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;
21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.
22 He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.
23 But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
24 ¶ Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:
25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.
26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

All you are doing is fulfilling prophesy of the Lord. Helping to seperate the wheat from the tares. Enjoy being burned.

Jed Anderson

"Jed Anderson"
Date:Thu, 21 Sep 2006 13:30:08 -0600

(Proverbs 23:9.)
9 Speak not in the ears of a fool: for he will despise the wisdom of thy words.
(Matthew 7:6.)
6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
(2 Timothy 3:1-5.)
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
Anyone with a knowledge of the Gospel of Christ (by the way all of those scriptures are from the bible) will see your persecution for what it is. You are decieved, and I will no longer converse with you, swine!


Here is a message from YouTube:

cokepuma September 23, 2006 Thank you sir for showing the world the "real truth" about a religion via half assed photoshopping and punk rock. I don't know much about the mormons, I don't go to any church, but I appreciate the true crusaders out there like yourself that can show me the way based on recycled one-liners. I do feel bad if the frat boys at BYU hurt your feelings back in '83, or maybe if Donny Osmond wouldn't give you an autograph, but maybe at some point you could think about moving on. I know it's hard, princess. When in your mind you build yourself up to be this great exposer of truth and evil but wake up to realize you have just been riding Michael Moore's dick your whole life, it has to be an eye-opener. But for kick ass! Keep rockin buddy. ==============================================

Even some ex-Mormons attack me and here are a couple of examples, as I get it from both sides. These comments are regarding my podcasts and I'll comment more on this at a latter date, as I have much more to say.

Vegasbright over in Mormon Discussions said:

Not trying to Diss the guy or anything, but the creed he has playing at the beginning is amateurishly annoying, it sounds like hes reading (poorly) from a script and theres no real issues raised. Its got an "aww i hate that" kind of gripe feel to it. Well sam, we all dont like the blaring oddities of mormonism but the way its presented were learning nothing new, just complaining. Lets be constructive when criticising.

Okay, he hates Creed, but "reading poorly from a script" and "no real issues raised?" He bitches about my griping? Are you serious? Nobody gripes or complains more than Vegasbright, that I've ever seen and poorly I might add, about everything. It was funny when Vegasbright got really pissed off at Daniel C Peterson and to show how tough he is, he left his personal info over on Mormon Discussions, and a challenge for Daniel C. Peterson to call him, because DCP was talking trash about him, behind his back, over on the Fairboards.

He said to DCP:

Furthermore, if DCP wants to say something, he can say it to me directly.

I guess he's a "do as I say, not as I do" kind of guy....good job Vegasbright!!

He lists his occupation as:

Night dwelling Router Jockey
For those that might want to contact him and let him know how you feel, here is his personal info, that he left for all the world to have, over on Mormon Discussions:

Phone: Sorry guys, he asked me to remove it, in a profanity laced tirade(posted above) in which he told me to "shut the FUCK up" and "get the FUCK over myself." I know that I didn't have to, but I didn't want him to get phone calls that he couldn't handle or blow a blood vessel, because he is one angry fool. I just decided to be a nice guy, what can I say!! LOL!!)

and Zelph said:

Samuel the Utahnite I really don't care for. I have not listened to any of his stuff the last few months but what I have listened to seems like just a huge gripe session. Very negative podcast and his points seem to drag on forever. They could easily but cut down to 1/4 of the time and you would get the same stuff out of them. I think his podcasts are a good recovery tool for him right now but hope that it does make him a bitter person for life. Life is to short to have Mormonism get you down for the rest of your life.

Zelph, has no idea why I do my podcasts or the purpose of anything that I do and doesn't care a lick, about those that I'm helping. I just want to mention that both of these people, that bitch and moan about how shitty my podcasts are and how all I do is gripe and bitch, do nothing but bitch, gripe and moan, call people bad names(other ex-Mormons, non-Mormons), in about every post they write. They make me look calm in fact. They are hypocrites, plain and simple, especially Vegasbright!!

So, hey, if anybody out there knows Vegasbright; give him a call and tell him to get his ass over here, because I'm talking shit about him behind his back, just like DCP!! Oh yeah, and I'm not afraid of either him or his hard-ass act that he puts on and I actually find it extremely comical, especially the one where he pretended(maybe it was real) to be in a big fight with his TBM brother....LOL!!

He called his brother all kinds of nasty names, in a profanity laced tirade or was that a fight that he had with himself? I guess I just didn't feel that he was being very constructive with his criticism toward himself/brother and was just complaining and griping too much...LMAO!!

He's known for his amazing, deep quotes like:

Hey asshat?!?! Got anything constructive to say?

I guess that I could say the same thing back to him. My guess is that no, he probably doesn't.
He thinks that everything he says is constructive though. The sad things is, I just looked at his blog and he wrote a great post on why he and so many ex-Mormons are so damn angry....ironic, isn't it? I guess he can actually write something of substance when he isn't trashing everyone and acting like a fool and a hypocrite. In any case, I shared my opinion of him and he shared his opinion of me. Isn't it wonderful? Like I said, I get it from both sides.

Maybe he's just really screwed up from that Mormon upbringing and has lost his ability to reason and use common sense? All I know is that he has issues with me and my podcasts for some reason has never once even interacted with me or Emailed me that I know of. So, if he wants to discuss me publicly, without my knowledge, I'll do him the same honor and he knows where he can find me, if he has issues with me.

Date:Tue, 09 May 2006 21:28:17 -0600

Which of these do you do most: "masturbate, fornicate, or act out on
your homosexual desires?"
You and I both know your _hatred_ and your
inability to follow rules is your downfall. You're so blinded by your
addiction you couldn't see truth cause you prefer one or more of those
3 previously mentioned things to actually following the church.

No? Did I "Hit the nail on the head." Chances are good I did just that. Suck it up fool.

You'll not desecrate things that are pure with your
hatred, slander and un-originality.



Here is the one that started it all. This was my very first hatemail, that got the hate rolling:

Subject:Came across your blog
Date:Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:17:27 -0700
From:"Jason Aivaz"


And I just about threw up. What is your problem? Why are you so mad at the church? Excommunicated for adultery maybe? Perhaps. Awwww, someone is mad because the Church doesn't approve of their lifestyle. So you're doing this to what, air your grievances? You really think that you'll do 1 thing to tear down God's Kingdom on earth? This is the work, man. No unhallowed hand, remember?

I know what your deal is... you've never been a member, and you surely aren't now. You're 1 of 2 things... you're either some "christian" automaton, preaching against a Church you have no idea about because your preacher asked you to, or you're some preacher, peddling your pathetic anti-mormon literature. But you are starting a revolution, oh yeah... 99 blog views. Wow. Only 264,999,001 more people to get the message out to.

And why don't you allow comments on your little blog? Can someone dish it out, but not take it? Uh-oh. You really are the lowest of the low. Since you're powerful enough to bring down the True Church of God, let's see you answer some questions... what mission did you serve in, who was your mission president, what years did you serve? Which Temple were you married in? Who performed your sealing? Are you divorced? Did you commit adultery? Does your "family" feel the same about the church as you do? Let's see some walk served with this talk, friend.

Jason M. Aivaz

Just for fun, here is Jason's livejournal, which he kept on his mission(naughty, naughty) and for those that have time to read it, it has a lot of fun stuff in it.

Also, here is a link to his mission page, as he served in the Kentucky, Louisville mission.

Here are some great highlights from his livejournal, that I thought you'd all enjoy:

[Jul. 28th, 200501:48 pm]

Well, I’m married… have been for about 2 weeks now. It’s weird. I can sleep in the same bed with her and not feel bad or wrong. I can kiss her, and not have to stop there. She looks so cute asleep. I love being a husband… I wouldn’t trade it for anything. The next step from here is becoming a Dad… that part scares me, so we probably won’t make a concerted effort towards that for another few years… at least until I have some school under my belt.To everyone who helped in my wedding/reception (whether you came, were a bridesmaid or groomsman, or whatever) you have my many, MANY thanks. We got the reception pictures back, and they’re AMAZING (especially the one where Tony kneed me in the balls… bastard)

"I'm retarded for this girl. The L-Bomb has been dropped by both sides, and it feels incredible. I'm pretty sure this is the best I've felt since the mission.
Her name is Seana. She expresses her love for me in 1st Grade poetry. She calls me sometimes just to hear my voice. We eat lunch on Saturdays and don't want to leave the car. She works at D.I."

Jan. 2nd, 200411:28 am]

"Today, Ross and I were giving service at the Hospital, when all of a sudden, the Paramedics wheeled in a body-bag, which I'm assuming was, well... occupied. After overhearing the medic say to the coroner, "there's one more" and watching as the body was wheeled into the morgue, I carried on along my way. The interesting thing was Ross, he stopped dead in his tracks, got as pale as a ghost and almost passed out. My initial reaction was to laugh, of course, because I had become somewhat accustomed to dead bodies by being an avid watcher of the Faces of Death series. But then I thought, is it possible that I've become so calloused, so desensitized as to not give so much as pause to a person who no doubt hours ago was living, and just recently gave that up? Sometimes it takes extremes to bring about small changes."

Maybe it's just me but I think that there's something very fundamentally wrong with someone that laughs at the sight of dead people. I've personally never found anything funny about people dying or body bags. It's good to see that the Mormon Church and his Family have had such a great influence on him!!

I'll leave you with one more quote to ponder that came from during his mission Feb 27,2004. This will give us a little better insight into the man that is Mr. Jason M. Aivaz(AKA Mr. Vegas):

"Call me old-fashioned, bigoted, conservative, whatever, but... boys don't marry boys, and girls don't marry girls. How could they? I now pronounce you man and... man. You may now kiss... the man? If 2 guys/girls can marry each other, why can't Mormons have more than 1 wife? Can I marry a poltergiest? How about a toster oven? My sister? Where's it going to stop?"

Stay tuned, and check back often, as I will keep adding more each chance I get, as there is much more to come.........

Samuel the Utahnite

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Sunday, October 08, 2006

Mormon/BYU Professor Steven Jones, Believes President Bush And His Men, Planned And Orchestrated 911 And Used The Hijacked Planes As "A Diversion!!"

Here is the interview with Tucker Carlson on MSNBC:

Here is the video presentation that he gave at UVSC February 1, 2006:

Here is another link, which is a debate between both sides of this issue. It requires Real Media Player to watch.

EXCLUSIVE...9/11 Debate: Loose Change Filmmakers vs. Popular Mechanics Editors of "Debunking 9/11 Myths"

Here is one great site, that debunks the conspiracy theorists. This is just one of many and you can all Google the rest if interested, as they aren't hard to find.

There are many other links, that support the conspiracy theorists some of which Brad included in his last comment, in the last post, so here they are below, for those that have the time and care to spend hours looking at all sides of this issue. I have no problem sharing both sides, and letting everyone come to their own opinion. Here is a link to the main site that both supports and is supported by Steven Jones and his theories.

By the way, Steven Jones is a co-chair of this 911 committee, so he is deeply involved and supports everything they say, even that "a missile, not a plane, hit the pentagon." Amazing, isn't it, that none of the "supposed" people that were "supposedly" on the plane, that "supposedly" hit the pentagon, haven't come forward. I guess they just hid or destroyed the plane and then killed them or have them in secret prisons, right? Come on man!!

Here are some additional links, as provided by Brad:

Video 1

Video 2

Video 3

I know this is pretty old news for most of you out there, but I never got a chance to write a post on it, like I wanted to, back when I first discovered it last year. It recently came to the surface again, when Steven Jones was put on paid leave by the Mormon Hierarchy. Steven Jones honestly believes that President Bush and those working for him, planted the bombs in the twin towers and building 7 and that their ensuing collapse, had absolutely nothing to do with the airliners impact, explosions and the intense heat that resulted.

Like I mentioned in the title, he claims the hijacking of the airlines was just a "diversionary tactic", and nothing more. Bush wanted everyone to "think" that it was the hijacked airliners that caused the collapse, when in reality, the entire plan was hatched from the oval office, all the way to the caves in Afghanistan.

I guess he assumes that Bush called up Bin Laden on his satellite phone(he has him on speed dial) and asked him if he would do a big favor for him and his administration and hijack some planes and crash them into the towers and then the White House and Pentagon, just to really make it look good and cover his ass for what he was trying to pull off with the Twin Towers.

Of course flight 93 never made it to the White House, which I'm sure really upset Bush, right? Give me a damn break!! Then again, crashing in the field of Pennsylvania was probably planned too, right? Why not? I mean if Bush was diabolical enough to hatch this entire plan, to kill thousands of innocent people, for more defense spending and political gain, why not plan the crash in Pennsylvania too?

A poster named Brad just left a couple of comments on my last post, regarding all of this and I just thought that I'd move them over here, so that the topic could be properly discussed. I wanted to show this video of his interview with Tucker and give links to what this man has written and said, so that you guys can learn about it and then express your own opinion, if you want to. I personally think it's insane and that Steven Jones is looney.

To think that Bush and his "guys", snuck into the towers, in the dark of the night, after corroborating everything with Al Qaeda and Bin Laden and planted bombs up and down the towers and then he called up Bin Laden to plan the hijackings; is out of this world insane. I've heard of conspiracy theories, but personally, I think the "grassy knoll" or "Bigfoot"(Brigham Young says he's Cain), "Joseph Smith being threatened by a homicidal angel of God, with a flaming sword, if he didn't become a pedophile" or "alien abductions", has 1000% more validity than this does.

As I mentioned, Steven Jones was put on paid leave a while back, by Gordon B. Hinckley, the so called Mormon Prophet, shortly after meeting with President Bush.(Notice how nice that room is?) I also don't think that it happened right after Bush met with Hinckley, because the theory is true, rather that these nutjobs like Steven Jones, saying that Bush planned and carried out the whole thing, look very anti-American and and make Hinckley Incorporated look very bad.

The freedoms and constitutional rights of this country allow them to have any opinion they want and even to express it publicly. However, Hinckley Inc. doesn't want them working for them, even if they agreed privately that what he was saying was true. As everything else, it's all about the image and protecting that image, so that they can continue to suck more people into their web of lies and deception, while sucking them dry financially.

Does anyone really think that the Mormon Hierarchy want to be seen as supporters of a conspiracy theorist like Steven Jones, who believes the President of the United States, planned out and then brutally murdered thousands of innocent people?

It also doesn't surprise me that Steven Jones would believe this, since he probably also believes in homicidal angels with flaming swords, that forced Joseph Smith to be a pedophile behind his wives back, or else be killed. Anyone that can believe this BS, can believe anything and it shouldn't surprise any of us that he would believe many other wacky things. Which reminds me of what Jeff Lindsay from Mormanity had to say about Steven Jones:

"It is vital that the truth about this event be known. Dr. Jones, thank you for having the courage to put truth above your career in speaking out on this vital topic." (Reminds me of some other great role models in the Book of Mormon who dared to stand up against powerful and corrupt forces.)

Nothing like a Mormon Apologist to talk about "Dr. Jones courage to put truth above his career" and then compare him to completely fictional "great role models in the Book of Mormon." I'm guessing that Jeff Lindsay is confirming that he is also drinking the Kool-aid and believes everything "Dr. Jones" is saying and that he also believes the US Government is a "powerful and corrupt force."

Thank you Jeff Lindsay, for telling us all how you really feel!! I think this gives us a much better insight into who Jeff Lindsay is and why he is a Mormon Apologist.

I know that there are people that hate this country, call us the "most corrupt country in the world", etc, but hey, there are other places to live if you hate it here so much and nobody is forcing you to stay. I'm sure that Hugo Chavez of Venezuela would love to have you guys and you'd have a lot in common.

I also know that the Mormon Hierarchy wants to kiss the governments ass, so that they don't ever lose their tax exempt status, even though their so called church is really a corporation and that ain't no conspiracy theory; that's fact!! Steven Jones, was making Jesus' "one and only true church" look very bad and radical and the Church is trying to be a mainstream, patriotic, Christian church.

The bottom line is that Steven Jones has the freedom to say or spew whatever conspiracy theory he wants and people have the right to say whatever they want in response. As we've seen in the past, BYU will get rid of anybody that says anything against them or what they believe, whether it's for expressing 911 conspiracy theories(Steven Jones), that their racist views and history are wrong(Darron T. Smith), or that they should treat homosexuals better(Jeffrey Nielsen) . At least Darron Smith and Jeffrey Nielsen were dealing with real issues and not some conspiracy theory.

It's amazing that the Mormon Hierarchy waited this long to investigate this clown. Hell, maybe the Prophet and First Presidency think he's right, but had to cut their loses when he became more vocal and started to name names? You would think that they could just ask God or Jesus what happened and they'd be enlightened immediately in the Holy of Holies!!

To me, this has nothing to do with politics, as I wouldn't believe that any President, Democratic, Republican, Independent or any other party, in the history of the US, or in the future, would ever plan such a horrific thing, just for an excuse to go to war or for political gain.

I also don't think that anyone could get away with it, without somebody speaking out. Everybody has a price and if they had hard evidence, they'd be the most famous person on the earth and very rich. Like 123 said, there were plenty of other reasons to go to war if they wanted to, without carefully plotting the deaths of 3,000 Americans and those from other countries.

If something like this was planned, as the conspiracy theorists say it definitely was; there would be too many people involved to keep it a secret. I'm just not even close to buying this theory and I think it's crazy. By the way Brad, I have watched his presentations and read much of what is written, listened to those on both sides and I think this theory is complete bullshit and absolutely ridiculous.

Of course, as always, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If this theory is true, we are in a heap of trouble and maybe Bush will plan an attack on Salt Lake next, right? What these conspiracy theorists are really saying, is that we need our military to protect us from our leaders, because they are the ones planning terrorist attacks, not the terrorists.

Why stop here right? I'm sure if we look at every terrorist attack around the world, in the last 5 years, hell maybe 10-20 years, we will find suspicious evidence that every one of them was planned by the US Government and US Presidents, right?

In other words, the only terrorism that exists is from the US, isn't that what they're getting at? Yeah, there are many that believe that and spew that BS, that the US Government officials are the "real terrorists." It kind of sounds to me like some other groups and countries that believe that and they are the true enemy, and the real terrorists, not the US Government.

The head lunatic in Iran is completely nuts and actually thinks he has some dude sitting on his shoulder telling him to start Armageddon and that it's his duty and he isn't kidding. So, again, if you really believe that crap being spewed by people like Steven Jones; that the US Government is being run and led by terrorists and that Al Qaeda is just a front for the the US Government, in order to use hijacked planes, slamming into buildings, as just a "diversionary tactic"; I'm sure those other countries would love to have you.

Well take care everybody and I look forward to your opinions on this issue. I know that there are many out there that say, "let's wait and see", "maybe he's right, that Bush did organize and plan the whole thing", but I say no way, it's ridiculous and Steven Jones is out of his mind and so is anyone else that believes it.

Samuel the Utahnite

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Sunday, October 01, 2006

Robert Millet, Former Dean of Religious Education At BYU, Now With Church Public Affairs, Teaches Future Missionaries How To Deal With Anti-Mormons!!

I came across this video back in January and I just wanted to share it with all of you guys and those of you that have the time and desire to watch it.(43 minutes long) I will also be including a permanent link to this post in my link section, so that everyone will be able to easily find it in the future or refer others to it.

In this video, Robert Millet is speaking to the Mission Prep Club(pathetic I know) at BYU, on March 11, 2004, about how to handle the tough anti-Mormon questions missionaries may face, while on their missions or afterward. I guess they are getting pretty desperate, aren't they?

Here is some background info on the guy:

Brother Robert Millet was Born in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, on 30 December 1947 and served in the Eastern States Mission from 1967-69. He married Shauna Sizemore in 1971; they have six children. Brother Millet received B.S., M.S. degrees in Psychology from BYU and his Ph.D. from Florida State University in Religious Studies.

He worked with LDS Social Services, LDS Seminaries and Institutes, and joined BYU Religious Education faculty in 1983. While at BYU, he has served as Ancient Scripture Department Chair and as Dean of Religious Education. He now holds a joint appointment with Church Public Affairs (Manager of Outreach and Interfaith Relations).

This guy is a first class chump and is just teaching these "future missionaries" how to lie and be an apologist like him, by not answering the tough questions that people ask, rather answering the questions that they want people to ask, which they didn't ask(insane, I know).

In other words, "the church is the only true church on earth" and anyone that thinks differently, or asks good, tough questions, based completely on truth, reality and facts; are evil liars and anti-Mormons and they should just be ignored. If they ask you about the racism, tell them about the First Vision, right?

There are an entire slew of great comments by this guy, such as:

"We really aren't obligated to answer everyone's questions."

Yeah, I would add; especially if they are tough questions, that make the Mormon church look like the fraud and cult that it truly is. Robert Millet shares an example from the Book of Mormon, confirming that those who ask these questions, are "from the Devil."

I guess this would confirm Brigham Young saying that us ex-Mormons are all anti-Christs and then Boyd K. Packer saying that we should be avoided, because we are "full of darkness" and "disease germs." Good to see that they think so highly of us, isn't it?

Another great quote is:

"As Latter-Day Saints, you already know more about God and Christ and the Plan of Salvation, than anyone who will attack you, take my word for it....and you and I should take some degree of confidence in that."

What arrogance and people accuse me of being too sure of what I know? When I went to that Stake Conference with M. Russell Ballard last year, he basically said the same thing; that "Latter-Day Saints know more about Jesus and the next life, than anybody else on the planet." He said that the world needs Mormons to educate them about "the truth" of things, because Mormons are the only ones that have it.

Again, this is flat out arrogance, condescending as hell and how does this bring others to Mormonism or show their supposed love and acceptance of others, that don't believe as they do or those of other religions? Oh that's right, it all started with the "I'm greater than Jesus Christ" Joseph Smith and the teaching that all churches are an abomination with false preachers and corrupt doctrines.

Then you have the BOM teaching that there are only 2 churches, God's and the "whore of all the earth" or the "mother of harlots", etc. Yes, this shows how much the Mormon Hierarchy love and accept others that don't believe as they do, doesn't it?

Do they actually think that people won't be smart enough to put all this together and expose them? Are they really that naive or are they just dumb? Maybe that's why an estimated 125,000 people resigned last year, eh?

Robert Millet basically states that because people are opposing Mormonism, it proves that the church is true; so the opposition proves the veracity of the Mormon church. So, I guess based on that ridiculous logic, Communism is true, Terrorism is true and so on.

No wonder missionaries act so arrogantly and cocky and I should know, because I was one. I believed that we had the only truth on earth and that everybody else was wrong and that is what I taught every time I shared the First Vision story.

He talks about how nobody will remain neutral and will either be for or against the Kingdom of God. In other words, people will either be for or against Mormonism and those who reject it, are evil and screwed in this life and the next.

He quotes Brigham Young as saying:

"Every time we announce the building of a temple, all the bells of hell begin to ring and oh how I love to hear those bells." (The future missionaries laugh!!)

This is truly pathetic and a fine example of the kind of BS the Mormon Hierarchy is trying to spew to the world and the deceptive means and individuals that it uses to do it.

Robert Millet and everything he says in this video, is fully condoned by the Mormon Hierarchy and he has served as the Ancient Scripture Department Chair and as Dean of Religious Education at BYU. Robert Millet is exactly the kind of man(sucker), that the Mormon Hierarchy are looking for, to spread their BS all over the world.

I'm really glad that this video exists, in order to show everyone that us antis aren't insane or imagining some inexistent conspiracy; which is, that they are teaching the members and missionaries to flat out lie about what the Church actually believes and has taught in their dark past. In some cases, this would include their dark present teachings as well.

This video shows exactly what their plans of deceit are and how they want to suck innocent people into their web of lies and closet of skeletons.

This man needs help and is a completely arrogant, delusional, Mormon apologist in my opinion!! He should go hang out with the likes of Van Hale, Daniel Peterson, Jeff Lindsay and the others as they would be best friends I'm sure, if they aren't already. You guys did notice that he now works with the Mormon Hierarchy's "public affairs department?" What a shocker!! LOL!!

Anyone want to argue with me that he isn't doing and saying exactly what they want him to, with their implicit approval?

This video, along with the 50,000+ brainwashed Mormon missionaries, being taught to lie and deceive the world, is the perfect example of why us ex-Mormons need to keep doing what we're doing and spreading the truth and reality of the Mormon cult to the world.

I look forward to everyone's comments,

Samuel the Utahnite

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Hinckley: "I remind you that no man who makes disparaging remarks concerning those of another race can consider himself a true disciple of Christ."

Hey everyone, I don't have much to say in this post, because this video I created says it all. I felt that I really needed to get this out there, since it's conference weekend and everyone is singing "We Thank Thee O God For A Prophet(profit)", confirming him a "Prophet, Seer and Revelator" and all standing in unison, with tears in their eyes, as he enters the $500 million Gordon B. Hinckley Conference Center.

This video includes what Hinckley had to say in the last General Conference(April 2006), at the Priesthood session, where he was completely shocked about reports of racism and supposedly had no idea where it all came from, even though he had discussed the racism issue multiple times, in about every public interveiw he's ever done. I made this video specifically for Hinckley and everyone else, that just can't figure out where the Mormon racism came from.

It's not hard to figure out when you read the exact words of Hinckley himself and many other past and current Apostles and Prophets of the Mormon Church. This video should clear up any confusion that there might be as I just wanted to solve the mystery for everyone, especially Hinckley and his very selective memory.

I look forward to everyone's comments, especially you TBM lurkers, that want to defend or justify these awful, racist, "word for word" statements and quotes. If you TBM Apologists, just want to leave a comment saying the same old BS; that they were just misquoted, never really said such things, just spoke as men, or were just sharing their personal opinion, etc, don't bother leaving a comment and save yourself and us some time. Give us a new apologetic angle that we haven't already heard 1,000 times before.

For those that want to download the audio of these remarks, or read more about this talk by Hinckley, and what I thought about it last April, right after he gave the talk(along with many more detailed, racist quotes from Mormon Apostles and Prophets); you can read this post on my blog.

Samuel the Utahnite

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