Mormon/BYU Professor Steven Jones, Believes President Bush And His Men, Planned And Orchestrated 911 And Used The Hijacked Planes As "A Diversion!!"
Here is the interview with Tucker Carlson on MSNBC:
Here is the video presentation that he gave at UVSC February 1, 2006:
Here is another link, which is a debate between both sides of this issue. It requires Real Media Player to watch.
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Here is one great site, that debunks the conspiracy theorists. This is just one of many and you can all Google the rest if interested, as they aren't hard to find.
There are many other links, that support the conspiracy theorists some of which Brad included in his last comment, in the last post, so here they are below, for those that have the time and care to spend hours looking at all sides of this issue. I have no problem sharing both sides, and letting everyone come to their own opinion. Here is a link to the main site that both supports and is supported by Steven Jones and his theories.
By the way, Steven Jones is a co-chair of this 911 committee, so he is deeply involved and supports everything they say, even that "a missile, not a plane, hit the pentagon." Amazing, isn't it, that none of the "supposed" people that were "supposedly" on the plane, that "supposedly" hit the pentagon, haven't come forward. I guess they just hid or destroyed the plane and then killed them or have them in secret prisons, right? Come on man!!
Here are some additional links, as provided by Brad:
I know this is pretty old news for most of you out there, but I never got a chance to write a post on it, like I wanted to, back when I first discovered it last year. It recently came to the surface again, when Steven Jones was put on paid leave by the Mormon Hierarchy. Steven Jones honestly believes that President Bush and those working for him, planted the bombs in the twin towers and building 7 and that their ensuing collapse, had absolutely nothing to do with the airliners impact, explosions and the intense heat that resulted.
Like I mentioned in the title, he claims the hijacking of the airlines was just a "diversionary tactic", and nothing more. Bush wanted everyone to "think" that it was the hijacked airliners that caused the collapse, when in reality, the entire plan was hatched from the oval office, all the way to the caves in Afghanistan.
I guess he assumes that Bush called up Bin Laden on his satellite phone(he has him on speed dial) and asked him if he would do a big favor for him and his administration and hijack some planes and crash them into the towers and then the White House and Pentagon, just to really make it look good and cover his ass for what he was trying to pull off with the Twin Towers.
Of course flight 93 never made it to the White House, which I'm sure really upset Bush, right? Give me a damn break!! Then again, crashing in the field of Pennsylvania was probably planned too, right? Why not? I mean if Bush was diabolical enough to hatch this entire plan, to kill thousands of innocent people, for more defense spending and political gain, why not plan the crash in Pennsylvania too?
A poster named Brad just left a couple of comments on my last post, regarding all of this and I just thought that I'd move them over here, so that the topic could be properly discussed. I wanted to show this video of his interview with Tucker and give links to what this man has written and said, so that you guys can learn about it and then express your own opinion, if you want to. I personally think it's insane and that Steven Jones is looney.
To think that Bush and his "guys", snuck into the towers, in the dark of the night, after corroborating everything with Al Qaeda and Bin Laden and planted bombs up and down the towers and then he called up Bin Laden to plan the hijackings; is out of this world insane. I've heard of conspiracy theories, but personally, I think the "grassy knoll" or "Bigfoot"(Brigham Young says he's Cain), "Joseph Smith being threatened by a homicidal angel of God, with a flaming sword, if he didn't become a pedophile" or "alien abductions", has 1000% more validity than this does.
As I mentioned, Steven Jones was put on paid leave a while back, by Gordon B. Hinckley, the so called Mormon Prophet, shortly after meeting with President Bush.(Notice how nice that room is?) I also don't think that it happened right after Bush met with Hinckley, because the theory is true, rather that these nutjobs like Steven Jones, saying that Bush planned and carried out the whole thing, look very anti-American and and make Hinckley Incorporated look very bad.
The freedoms and constitutional rights of this country allow them to have any opinion they want and even to express it publicly. However, Hinckley Inc. doesn't want them working for them, even if they agreed privately that what he was saying was true. As everything else, it's all about the image and protecting that image, so that they can continue to suck more people into their web of lies and deception, while sucking them dry financially.
Does anyone really think that the Mormon Hierarchy want to be seen as supporters of a conspiracy theorist like Steven Jones, who believes the President of the United States, planned out and then brutally murdered thousands of innocent people?
It also doesn't surprise me that Steven Jones would believe this, since he probably also believes in homicidal angels with flaming swords, that forced Joseph Smith to be a pedophile behind his wives back, or else be killed. Anyone that can believe this BS, can believe anything and it shouldn't surprise any of us that he would believe many other wacky things. Which reminds me of what Jeff Lindsay from Mormanity had to say about Steven Jones:
"It is vital that the truth about this event be known. Dr. Jones, thank you for having the courage to put truth above your career in speaking out on this vital topic." (Reminds me of some other great role models in the Book of Mormon who dared to stand up against powerful and corrupt forces.)
Nothing like a Mormon Apologist to talk about "Dr. Jones courage to put truth above his career" and then compare him to completely fictional "great role models in the Book of Mormon." I'm guessing that Jeff Lindsay is confirming that he is also drinking the Kool-aid and believes everything "Dr. Jones" is saying and that he also believes the US Government is a "powerful and corrupt force."
Thank you Jeff Lindsay, for telling us all how you really feel!! I think this gives us a much better insight into who Jeff Lindsay is and why he is a Mormon Apologist.
I know that there are people that hate this country, call us the "most corrupt country in the world", etc, but hey, there are other places to live if you hate it here so much and nobody is forcing you to stay. I'm sure that Hugo Chavez of Venezuela would love to have you guys and you'd have a lot in common.
I also know that the Mormon Hierarchy wants to kiss the governments ass, so that they don't ever lose their tax exempt status, even though their so called church is really a corporation and that ain't no conspiracy theory; that's fact!! Steven Jones, was making Jesus' "one and only true church" look very bad and radical and the Church is trying to be a mainstream, patriotic, Christian church.
The bottom line is that Steven Jones has the freedom to say or spew whatever conspiracy theory he wants and people have the right to say whatever they want in response. As we've seen in the past, BYU will get rid of anybody that says anything against them or what they believe, whether it's for expressing 911 conspiracy theories(Steven Jones), that their racist views and history are wrong(Darron T. Smith), or that they should treat homosexuals better(Jeffrey Nielsen) . At least Darron Smith and Jeffrey Nielsen were dealing with real issues and not some conspiracy theory.
It's amazing that the Mormon Hierarchy waited this long to investigate this clown. Hell, maybe the Prophet and First Presidency think he's right, but had to cut their loses when he became more vocal and started to name names? You would think that they could just ask God or Jesus what happened and they'd be enlightened immediately in the Holy of Holies!!
To me, this has nothing to do with politics, as I wouldn't believe that any President, Democratic, Republican, Independent or any other party, in the history of the US, or in the future, would ever plan such a horrific thing, just for an excuse to go to war or for political gain.
I also don't think that anyone could get away with it, without somebody speaking out. Everybody has a price and if they had hard evidence, they'd be the most famous person on the earth and very rich. Like 123 said, there were plenty of other reasons to go to war if they wanted to, without carefully plotting the deaths of 3,000 Americans and those from other countries.
If something like this was planned, as the conspiracy theorists say it definitely was; there would be too many people involved to keep it a secret. I'm just not even close to buying this theory and I think it's crazy. By the way Brad, I have watched his presentations and read much of what is written, listened to those on both sides and I think this theory is complete bullshit and absolutely ridiculous.
Of course, as always, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If this theory is true, we are in a heap of trouble and maybe Bush will plan an attack on Salt Lake next, right? What these conspiracy theorists are really saying, is that we need our military to protect us from our leaders, because they are the ones planning terrorist attacks, not the terrorists.
Why stop here right? I'm sure if we look at every terrorist attack around the world, in the last 5 years, hell maybe 10-20 years, we will find suspicious evidence that every one of them was planned by the US Government and US Presidents, right?
In other words, the only terrorism that exists is from the US, isn't that what they're getting at? Yeah, there are many that believe that and spew that BS, that the US Government officials are the "real terrorists." It kind of sounds to me like some other groups and countries that believe that and they are the true enemy, and the real terrorists, not the US Government.
The head lunatic in Iran is completely nuts and actually thinks he has some dude sitting on his shoulder telling him to start Armageddon and that it's his duty and he isn't kidding. So, again, if you really believe that crap being spewed by people like Steven Jones; that the US Government is being run and led by terrorists and that Al Qaeda is just a front for the the US Government, in order to use hijacked planes, slamming into buildings, as just a "diversionary tactic"; I'm sure those other countries would love to have you.
Well take care everybody and I look forward to your opinions on this issue. I know that there are many out there that say, "let's wait and see", "maybe he's right, that Bush did organize and plan the whole thing", but I say no way, it's ridiculous and Steven Jones is out of his mind and so is anyone else that believes it.
Samuel the Utahnite
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