Tuesday, January 02, 2007

A Magical Tribute To Joseph Smith, Thanks To South Park And Joe's Famous "Head In The Hat Trick" Method Of "Translating" The Book Of Mormon!!

Hey everyone; here is a video I created, the week before Christmas and I just wanted to share it with you, along with my comments. I thought we could all use a good laugh, with so many other serious issues on the table. Enjoy Everyone!!

Here are my comments:

This is a magical tribute to Joseph Smith, the founder and so called "Prophet" of the Mormon church.

With Smithmas(for the Smithians), I mean Christmas, just around the corner, I was feeling very charitable; so I created this tribute with the help of "South Park" and the group "Tag Team", along with a very strong emphasis on Joseph Smith's ridiculous "head in the hat" trick, which he used exclusively to "translate"(fabricate) The Book of Mormon.

Anyone ever see the picture, sold at Jesus' Deseret bookstore, with Joseph Smith sitting at a table, looking at the plates and translating them? I covered this here on my blog in 2005. It's complete bullshit!! I had the damn picture hanging on my wall for 2 years during my mission. Doh!!

Enjoy everyone and forward it on to someone else!! The more people that learn this is how he really translated The Book of Mormon, the merrier.

Here are some descriptions below, that prove how he did it and why it was impossible for him to have made the countless mistakes and errors, including numerous spelling errors and confusion on who god was, which are well documented and near 4,000 in total.

Current Mormon Apostle Russell M. Nelson, in His Talk "A Treasured Testament", given June 25, 1992, at a seminar for new mission presidents, Missionary Training Center, Provo, Utah, said the following:

The details of this miraculous method of translation are still not fully known. Yet we do have a few precious insights. David Whitmer wrote:

"Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man." (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)

Emma Smith, who acted as an earlier scribe for Joseph, gave this account in 1856:
"When my husband was translating the Book of Mormon, I wrote a part of it, as he dictated each sentence, word for word, and when he came to proper names he could not pronounce, or long words, he spelled them out, and while I was writing them, if I made any mistake in spelling, he would stop me and correct my spelling although it was impossible for him to see how I was writing them down at the time. Even the word Sarah he could not pronounce at first, but had to spell it, and I would pronounce it for him.

"When he stopped for any purpose at any time he would, when he commenced again, begin where he left off without any hesitation, and one time while he was translating he stopped suddenly, pale as a sheet, and said, 'Emma, did Jerusalem have walls around it?' When I answered, 'Yes,' he replied, 'Oh! [I didn't know.] I was afraid I had been deceived.' He had such a limited knowledge of history at that time that he did not even know that Jerusalem was surrounded by walls." (Edmund C. Briggs, "A Visit to Nauvoo in 1856," Journal of History, Jan. 1916, p. 454.)

On another occasion, Emma Smith recorded:

"The plates often lay on the table without any attempt at concealment, wrapped in a small linen tablecloth, which I had given him to fold them in. I once felt of the plates as they thus lay on the table, tracing their outline and shape. They seemed to be pliable like thick paper, and would rustle with a metallic sound when the edges were moved by the thumb, as one does sometimes thumb the edges of a book." ("Last Testimony of Sister Emma," Saints' Herald, 1 Oct. 1879, p. 290; spelling modernized.)

So, "the plates often lay on the table without any attempt at concealment, wrapped in a small linen tablecloth." So were they "wrapped and concealed by a tablecloth" or "not concealed at all?" That sentence completely contradicts itself, but hey, that's Mormonism for you; one contradiction after another!!

Can you dig it fool? Whoomp there it is...LOL!!

Samuel the Utahnite

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At Friday, January 12, 2007 3:06:00 PM, Anonymous Alan Watts said...

Hey Samuel,
in the future, don't be too harsh with Eric Hoffman. Being an ex-junkie, he simply lacks a sense of reality sometimes like he did when he was on drugs.
Now he is on a new kind of drug, the "evangelical Jesus loves you!"-drug.
And as no junkie wants you to take away from his drugs, so Eric doesn't want you to take a damn thing from his Jesus-drug.
Peace and love for all,

Btw, did you read the poem someone posted on Eric's blog? It was a limerick about Chuck Smith. That was soo funny!

At Friday, January 12, 2007 3:32:00 PM, Blogger Gunner said...

You stop doing podcasts?

At Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:11:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Don't Have a Testimony of the History of the Church I just saw your blog. This is a good article.

At Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:18:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Samuel,
you going to do podcasts again? I sure miss them. I hope that you will!!

I loved this video of the head in the hat. I wonder why they don't sell that picture at the lard's bookstore.

I know it would sure provoke a lot of discussion if the head in the hat were for sale at Deseret Bookstore.

RfM sucks bad, Mike and Hyrum aren't doing podcasts, you stopped. Man it really stinks to try to find something good. Even mormondiscussions is shitty.

PLEASE think about doing podcasts again!!

At Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:38:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please consider more Podcasts , the only one doingthem now is Eric H. You understand the rage, missed your blog and podcasts.

At Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:53:00 AM, Anonymous Jason said...

Hey, anonymous,
maybe repeating that same rage over and over again is not so therapeutic at all.
Just move on. Accept the fraud for what it is, but move on. Putting salt in your wounds doesn't help you, nor anyone.
Therefore, the endless repitition of the same material (the sad case about the sister missionaries was covered already, no need to repeat that over and over!) is not helpful for anyone.
Maybe look for other leisure activities, not related to Mormonism and how it traps people.
Enjoy the hobbies you have, and live a life.
I mean seriously, if you only spend your time on mormon discussions and listening to 5 or 6 Ex-mormon podcast, where is the time for the rest of your life.
Maybe Samuel, Hyrum etc. do a good thing in spending less time to produce their rant but live a normal and fruitful life instead.
If sects suck your life away, the best protest is to live a life, a life of freedom, a life without nonsense obligations (wearing special underwear, not drinking coke, etc).

Freedom is what we want, so let's take the freedom and not live a life of forced Anti-Mormonism, not doing anything besides ranting and cursing.

Just my few cents on the topic.
Hey, what am I doing here. I should stop going to this forum *lol*.

Got the point?

At Sunday, January 14, 2007 3:54:00 PM, Anonymous Elder Joseph said...

Keep up The good work Samuel ... Alot of people need and appreciate you and your help in involvement in Mormonism . Tonight I unintentionally spoke about the Blacks issue to a recent convert of about 18 months . He's black skinned , a sincere person . He was crushed by the news , I felt so bad , I then was steering him towards Darron Smith and also The LDS genesis group support for blacks . This church needs to sort itself out over the issue instead of hoping no one notices the history . Just as bad was when I showed Polygamy in D&C 132 , he was shocked !!

I felt awful showing him , but he thanked me for showing him , he said I did the right thing .Tonight I will pray that God heals his wounds .

Funny enough , I suggested to him not to panic , but keep coming to church and maybe someone can reconcile these things to him ??

I didn't feel good about it . But I was being Honest and thats what is important I reckon. I personally don't know what to make of it all .At least let everyone decide for themselves once they know the full facts .

Elder Joseph

At Monday, January 15, 2007 12:37:00 AM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

Jason, thanks for your comments, but they made me realize that you and many others, really don't have a clue as to what I'm trying to do here, which is okay, because I'm going to try to help you all understand.

Don't you realize that more people every single day are realizing that the Mormon church is a fraud?

Don't they need help too and to know that there are those of us out here that have felt the pain they are feeling, that understand and don't you think they want to know more about the church, just like we did? When I first made my discovery, I think I spent probably 16-18 hours a day, seeking TRUTH about EVERYTHING.

I mean after 30+ years of thinking you have the only truth and were a die-hard Mormon; yeah, it has a serious impact in your life and affects almost every aspect of it.

It's very easy to say; "hey, I found out the church is a fraud, so now I'm just going to live my life and who gives a shit about the others that come after me."

I cannot take that approach and I'm here to continue helping the others that come today, tomorrow, 2 years from now or 10 years from now, until the day I die. I still get a 10-1 ratio of positive Emails, from people thanking me and sharing their stories with me.

Maybe you would need to read my weekly Emails, to understand why I continue to do what I do and can't stop. It's one thing to go live your life, but it's another thing to just selfishly say, "hey, I've got the truth and that's all that matters."

I also realize that not everyone is up to doing what I'm doing and spending literally thousands of hours over the last 20 months in research, writing, recording, responding, etc, but someone has to do it.

I've been fortunate to be able to do what I've done and I have basically lived off of my savings to do it and been able to spend the time that I have, dedicated to something that I consider to be extremely important, urgent and life-changing for many people, all around the world, including myself and many of you reading this.

I just checked my Emails, and since July of 2006 and I've now received 7,974 Emails, which averages out to 450-500 Emails a month or over 100 a week. Again, 90% or higher, are from people thanking me.

That is why I do what I do and why I will keep doing what I'm doing and I would feel highly ungrateful for what I've learned and my personal experience of leaving Mormonism and my journey to the truth, if I didn't use it to help others. In other words, I'm paying back, by helping others, because of those that helped me when I needed it the most.

I hope this helps everyone, that was wondering why I do this and to understand better why I'm doing this and why I have no plans of stopping, EVER!!

The only reason that I took a break from podcasting and my blogs, was because of personal time constraints, friends and family that took priority. I just can't do it all and be in all places at all times, doing all things and I appreciate you guys understanding that. I just do the very best I can.

However, the end of July is when I started with YouTube and I've posted 33 videos there since then(that have received thousands of comments and over 105,000 views), while I wasn't podcasting and I've done many other things that most of you aren't even aware of.

So, I'm always doing something, somewhere, even if it may appear that I'm not. I'm trying to reach as many people(TBMS, ex-Mormons, investigators, etc), as I can, in as many different ways as I can and that is what I've been focused on.

Now, that I've accomplished that, I'm going to go back to my bread and butter, which is my podcasts and blogs here in Mormon Truth, while being able to maintain and add to the other things I'm doing, which are rolling now. I wish there were about 5 of me, because that's what I need, to stay on top of everything, especially Emails.

I will also be adding to my Mormon Truth family of podcasts, as I just added "Mormon Truth Interviews"(2 episodes), which I haven't had a chance to even announce yet and I'll have other podcasts coming soon, in addition to my other "original podcasts"(Mormon Truth & Mormon Truth Uncensored) continuing on.

I also want to mention that during the last 6 months, in addition to studying and deeply researching a ton of Mormon teachings and doctrines; I've spent a lot of time, one on one, in person or on the phone, trying to help people, both strangers, family and friends of mine, which has caused 3 more of my friendships to end.

Why did they end? Because of my simply questioning and discussion of things like; "billion dollar malls", "alcohol being served in them" and "how many earrings a woman can wear in her ears" and "why God allows little kids(as just one example), to be brutally raped and killed and does nothing to stop it and just watches."

I was going to put this in a podcast, which I still will, but one of my die-hard TBM friends actually said; "if my little girl was brutally raped and killed(as his eyes filled with tears), I'd get down on my knees and thank God for it, because it would be a learning experience and something that could only make me a stronger man and better person and Father." He said that "everything that happens is for the greater good and god knows what we need to experience."

I know that sounds unbelievable(to the normal, sane people reading this) and as you can all imagine; I was stunned, horrified, flabbergasted, shocked, abhorred, sickened, etc, etc. I just couldn't believe what he said and I'll save my response back to him, for the podcast, and it ain't and wasn't pretty.

That is an prime example of the poison and sickness, that Mormonism puts in a person's brain!! It reminds me of the commercial that I'd change to; "this is your brain" and "this is your brain on Mormonism" and you could show the drug brain, because it's about the same.

This guy seems normal, is a great guy, but he's deeply disturbed, brainwashed and a Mormon cult member to the T. There's much more to tell you about, but like I said; "I'll save it for the podcast."

I also want to thank all of you out there that have supported me strongly and continued to donate, even though I haven't produced any podcasts since July. Thank you, because I couldn't find the strength to do it all on my own or to do it without your support and generosity.

My suggestion Jason is that if you have truly moved on and really want nothing more to do with Mormonism and are not affected by Mormonism anymore, in your daily life; to really move on, take your own advice and not read this page or any like it, anymore.

We'd love to have you stick around and contribute, but if we are truly in the past, as you claim, leave us there and continue on with your non-Mormon life, knowing that we'll always be here if you need anything or want to talk about something.

Unfortunately, most of us not fortunate like you seem to be and we are still affected daily by the Mormon cult, due to friends and family members that are still part of it. So how the hell are we supposed to just move on and why do you even care so much about what we do, in this regard?

I'm sure you have our best interests in heart, but we aren't you and wouldn't want you to stick around here, if you didn't want to, anymore than you should want us to not be here, doing what we are doing. What we do doesn't affect you and what you do doesn't affect us, as we are all free to deal and cope with our "discovery of truth", in the way the we each individually choose.

What about those that have a spouse, that is still die-hard and they go each week just to keep the family together? You don't think they need a place to come and bitch every week? I admire them for trying to keep their family together, while trying to help their spouse understand why the church is a fraud.

I admire them, because I'm not sure I could do that. I was always somebody that participated in class, as the rest of the dumbass drones just sat there and I answered all the questions, gave opinions, etc. I would have to just go to Sacrament and then go home and that would probably drive me to drink.

Maybe one day, these people I just spoke of, will have their relationship end because of Mormonism and the pressures, or maybe it already has and now they are separated from their children, etc, with their family ripped to shreds.

I'm just pointing out that leaving Mormonism is a very complex issue that will affect some of us for the rest of our lives and is unique and different in each individual's life. I have gained a very deep understanding of this during my journey, especially in the last 6 months or so.

That doesn't mean that we don't have a life and spend 24 hours a day, sitting in a corner, humming
"Mormonism, Mormonism", over and over. Some people may spend an hour a day or less, or more, it doesn't really matter, as that is up to each person to decide for themselves.

I simply provide a place where they can come and read, listen, watch and leave comments if they so choose. If I was helping one person, or only 5 people, I'd still do what I'm doing, because that's just the way I am.

Grant Palmer, from his inside sources, says that around 125,000 people resigned their membership last year and that's a lot of people that need a place to come to.

Also, my forum is uncensored(exceptions would be racist names being called, etc) in the normal sense, which can't be said for RFM and many other places. I've only had to delete one comment here(which was then openly discussed and re-posted) and one in YouTube(a guy talking about what Joseph Smith did with little boys, of which I have no proof and I wouldn't say it the way he did, if I did have that proof.) In other words, it has to be pretty extreme or hateful to be deleted.

This is a place where all people can truly and freely express themselves, Mormons, anti-Mormons, never Mormons, and yes, even dumbasses and Evangelical nut-jobs like Eric Hoffman(who is once again trashing me publicly like the coward he is and hypocritically lying, on Latter Day Saints new blog-I guess he can't get over me or something?) and his little Calvary chapel buddies, who condemn the whole Goddamn world to burn in hell with Satan, if we don't follow them. Those guys make the Mormons look normal!!

Eric, since you still, daily, read my "childish, ranting, worthless blog"(which he plugged heavily during our interview and loved up until June of 2006) and all of its corresponding comments; be an adult and move the FUCK on, okay? It's over dude and I don't want to be your little buddy or friend or source for Mormon doctrine and thanks for not calling anymore and begging me to be your friend and telling me that "you'll always be there for me", while condemning me, comparing homosexuals to pedophiles, etc, etc.)

Oh, I'm sorry, did I use a word that you publicly and hypocritically condemn(which he claims is all over my blog everywhere, along with pornography) and privately use on a regular basis? Yeah, sorry about that, go wash your eyes out with soap you pansy!!(At least he's already permanently saved though and can't do or say anything to change that, right?)

Just what the hell are never Mormons doing anyway, bitching about Mormonism? They have ZERO credibility and an agenda that reaches KOLOB!!

Anyway, back to something of substance, that actually matters and speaking of Grant Palmer; if you ever listened to the interview he did with John Dehlin, you'd know that he said the discovery that Mormonism was based on fraud and lies, was more painful to him than the chemo he went through.

I think that many of us have felt that deep, penetrating pain Jason and maybe it wasn't so bad for you, I don't know. Again, it's different for every person, probably based on what they've lost in the process of their discovery.

I would also suggest that you don't try to apply your recovery system or way of dealing with Mormonism before, now and in the future on anyone else, as we all have our own way of dealing and coping with things.

Also, never forget that probably every single day, there is someone else starting the journey to truth that we've been on for some time and that they too need help and support. It's very easy to forget where we've been and the pain we've felt, but my daily Emails, from people just like many of us; help me remember what it was like for me and how lonely and desperate it can feel, as your whole world unravels like a ball of twine.

I will forever be grateful, as I have told them myself, to Mike and Hyrum and their podcast, for helping me to deal with my pain, in the one of the most difficult times of my life and being able to laugh again and know that I wasn't alone.

They were also the ones that inspired me to start a podcast, as I didn't even know what that was, or that I could do my own show, until I heard them. If you guys are reading this, Mike and Hyrum; thanks again for all that you did for me and thanks Hyrum for the Emails and best luck in your future endeavors, which I know will help many people.

Take care everyone and thanks again for your support,


At Monday, January 15, 2007 6:22:00 AM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

Just in case Eric does venture in here and once again tries to publicly deny that "he condemned all Mormons to lose their souls forever", here is the audio, for all to here, that cannot be denied:

Eric clearly condemning ALL MORMONS!!

Trust me everyone, I'm not going to re-hash Eric Hoffman, as it isn't worth my time or yours, but I did want to leave the links to the posts that I've written about him previously, for those that are interested, that aren't familiar with the situation or that may be new to Mormon Truth.

They are my answer to his recent trashing of me once again, when I haven't said a damn word about the guy in about 6-7 months or so and I've made it clear that I want nothing to do with him. I don't have time to waste dissecting his deluded head anymore and even if I did have the time, I wouldn't waste it on him. The 10 minutes writing this comment is all I can stomach.

My suggestion is don't waste your time on the guy or the posts I've linked to, because he can't even remember what he says, then lies about it, either publicly or privately, changes his story and really isn't worth it, as many of us here already know.

And Eric says that I was obsessed with him and that I was like a stalker, and scaring him, etc? WTF? 6-7 months later and he's still taking shots at me, talking about me and lying, like we were never friends and he has always hated my blogs?

I just hate liars(especially the "saved" ones-LOL) and felt the need to clear up any misconceptions that his latest lies may have caused some of you. And this is the guy who claims to be "taking the high road" and gets congratulated for doing it, by his Calvary preacher buddy TheoJoe? What a joke!! Eric your arrogance about yourself being saved and all of us burning in the flames of hell is palpable and sickening!!

Here are the links if interested:

Are Die-hard Christian Zealots Or Apologists Worse Than Their Counterparts In Mormonism? Hell Yeah They Are!!

Fanaticism, Blanket Condemnation And A Saint Called Eric Hoffman!! Eric Says, "As long as you believe Joseph Smith...you will lose your soul forever!!

My Review Of The New "OxyMormonic Podcast". All I Can Say, Is That I Hope It Gets Better For All the Listeners.

Whatever happened to that OxyMormonic podcast anyway? It died after 2 shows and my review? Yep, it did!!

Here is a link to Chuck Smith, the founder and CEO of Eric's Calvary Church/Network he belongs to, on a radio show, lying about having predicted when Christ would return, which he clearly did in his books more than once. I like the very end though, as it's pretty damn funny and I don't think he was joking. Do you guys?

Take care everyone and once again Eric, MOVE ON DUDE and quit reading my blog and comments and lying about how it offends you, and then talking more shit about me, okay? If you were truly so offended and repulsed, YOU WOULDN'T BE HERE DUDE!!

Then again, maybe by continuing to read my blogs daily, as you do and listening to my future podcasts, as you will; you might actually learn something about Mormonism and have compassion for us ex-Mormons, instead of condemning us to "lose our souls forever" and "burn in the flames of hell for all eternity", while "gnashing our teeth." One can always hope, right?

Now, shut the hell up about me and so that I don't have to respond to your idiocy anymore, okay?


At Monday, January 15, 2007 7:56:00 PM, Blogger Gunner said...

I'm getting an error on the link to the interviews. iTunes will not take it. Do you have a direct RSS link?

At Monday, January 15, 2007 9:45:00 PM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

Sorry about that Gunner and everyone else!! That was the only link I didn't double check when I posted that comment. Let's try it again and this time I'll make sure it works:

Mormon Truth Interviews


At Tuesday, January 16, 2007 10:35:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not sure what happened to decieve you so much, but what makes you so sure you're not entirely wrong?

At Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:04:00 PM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

I wasn't deceived and I know this with a surety, because facts are facts, truth is truth and reality is reality. I'm no longer living in the delusional fantasyland of Mormon bosoms burning everywhere, as absolute proof that "the church is true, Joseph Smith was a Prophet", etc. I've graduated into the "real world" now and it's great!!

Anyone that has a functioning brain, that can differentiate right and wrong, fact and fiction and can use a little logic instead of pure emotion and burning bosoms, will be able to find the truth.

If anyone does this, they will easily know that Mormonism is a complete fraud based on many countless lies and deceptions, all the way back to the First Vision, that never even happened.

At first, it will be extremely difficult psychologically and emotionally to accept and the pain is tremendous, to discover that you've been deceived your whole entire life. Then, that pain gives way to the amazing feeling of freedom you have, which for me, was mainly freedom of thought and expression.

For the first time in my life, I was able to expand my mind and without fear, do some very deep thinking, that wasn't based on the parameters of Mormonism as my boundaries and limitations.

I finally realized that I didn't have all the answers as I once arrogantly assumed as a life-long Mormon, especially as a cocky 19 year old missionary, who knew everything about life, the church, God, etc. Yeah, that MTC does a real number on the young people with their indoctrination/role playing tactics.

When Hinckley brought this issue up in General Conference, about all the different versions of the First Vision and how the critics use these facts to attack the church, he said: SO WHAT?!! Is that really the type of response and insight you expect from a so called Prophet of God? It's easy to say "so what", when he already knows it's a complete fraud anyway and he knew that he'd get a good laugh from the Morgbots.

Hopefully you Anon, aren't one of the those sheeple in the audience, that would have the Mormon laughter as they did that day, at that remark. Instead, go investigate it, as I have and many others have and you'll be shocked at your findings.

Read the comments that Ray left in the last post regarding the First Vision and who was in it, how it kept changing and evolving, etc. Also, I highly suggest Grant Palmer's book: "An Insider's View Of Mormon Origins." Just in case you're afraid to buy it, because it isn't in the "official, approved church curriculum", it is for sale at Jesus' beloved University bookstore in Provo Utah. However, you may want to contact your Bishop, just to make sure you won't be disfellowshipped or excommunicated for buying it and reading it. LOL!!

It's an awesome book(that the church sells for some reason), because it completely debunks the entire foundation of Mormonism, right to the core. Too bad they still sell a book that caused a man to be disfellowshipped, right? It's good enough to profit from, but far too damaging for Grant Palmer to keep his church membership? Explain that one and oh yeah, why it was sold in Deseret bookstore for 2 years before his "court of love."

I wonder if they've ever called a "court of love" for all of those that agreed to sell his book in the first place, like Hinckley's little favorite gal and Deseret book CEO, Sheri Dew? Yeah right!!

Well, good luck in your journey Anon and we'll be here waiting to help you if you have any further questions or need our assistance.


At Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:27:00 PM, Blogger Gunner said...

Worked. Thanks Samuel.

The carnival is this week if you want to submit anything.

At Wednesday, January 31, 2007 7:56:00 PM, Anonymous Galatian said...

Samuel - I missed this article and just read it today and watched your "remix" video. OMFG I was laughing so hard I just about pissed myself! I just read all the comments too. I know you hear this a lot, and it's overdue on my part - but THANK YOU. Some don't, but most of us DO understand why you're doing this, and we feel the exact same way! You're doing an incredible job and helping so many ppl, and those of us with loved-ones in the cult thank you. Somewhere out there, you are helping others (if not our own family/friends who are still in denial) escape the cult and others' loved ones are being helped!! Thank you so much for all you do, and AWESOME VIDEO! (LOL)

At Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:12:00 AM, Blogger farmgirl said...

I was wondering, if the mormon church is a hoax, how do they continue to increase their numbers, and other churches are loosing their members? I just think if it is a hoax, how can you fool hundreds of thousands of people, it just seems that when you teach false doctrine, you never really progress, but this church has. Any ideas why?


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