Wednesday, January 18, 2006

Brigham Young University-Idaho,Continuing Ecclesiastical Endorsement-Good Hell, Free Agency?!! What's that?!! It's Like Being In Prison Or Something!!


I just wanted everyone to see, exactly what a BYU Idaho Student has to go through, in order to go to school there. This guy above, in the picture, is freaking overjoyed with the rules and very excited to be a student in Jesus' University. Of course, he was been slowly programmed since birth, so he doesn't really know what is happening or that he is being used by the cult to help recruit people with his giddy smile.

They are much stricter in Idaho, than in Provo, it's a complete joke. It's like they live in Communist China or something. I have several posts that I'm going to do, regarding the honor code and some of the ridiculous rules like, "NO FIVE O' CLOCK SHADOW!!" Yeah, men with a little stubble on their face, must be the spawn of Satan, right? I agree with that rule, it is just unacceptable....LOL!!

The next thing you know, they'll have someone running their hand up and down womens legs and checking out their armpits, to see if they've shaved and have to examine them for any of those "hidden piercings." You've gotta be kidding me man!! Maybe they should just start doing full body and cavity searches too, why not? Would it really surprise you if they did?

Does the Church still claim to believe and preach free agency? Well, you will understand after reading what I've posted below, that their is no such thing as "free agency" in the Mormon Church. It never has existed and never will!! Sure, you can do whatever you want, as long as you understand that you are throwing away your Eternal Life with your Family, no big deal, right? Yeah, that's Free Agency all right!!

They say, "we don't make anybody do anything", but as Ezra Taft Benson clearly said, regarding the the prophet and the presidency—the living prophet and the First Presidency—follow them and be blessed—reject them and suffer. Pretty clear to me!! Oh yeah and let's not forget my all time favorite, from the same talk, "The prophet will never lead the church astray."

Anyway, check out this BS!! This is just a general list, as one has to study in depth, the honor code to fully understand how incredible this is. There are MANY, MANY more rules than what you see here(Emphasis is mine):

Brigham Young University-Idaho Continuing Ecclesiastical Endorsement
Complete and submit early to avoid registration delays

Student Information
(Please Print)
__________________________ ___________________________________________________
BYU-I Number (Required) Last Name First Name Middle or Maiden
___________________________________________________
Current Address City State Telephone Number
Track: “ Sum/Fall “ Win/Sum “ Fall/Win Religious Affiliation: “ LDS “ Other
_____________________________________
Name of Bishop or ecclesiastical leader during the Winter Semester:___________________________________________

On My Honor

I certify that since my last ecclesiastical endorsement I have been striving to live the Honor Code. I am currently and will continue to abide by the Honor Code, dress and grooming standards, housing regulations, and will keep my commitment as a condition of my continuing enrollment. Any previous issue involving the Honor Code has been completely resolved with my bishop or ecclesiastical leader. I understand what the Honor Code is and that my obligation is to live the Honor Code, including Dress and Grooming Standards, both on and off campus and between semesters. I understand that should I violate my commitment the University may take action up to and including my separation from BYU–Idaho.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________
Student’s Signature Date

Ecclesiastical Leader’s Endorsement

The endorsement interview should be a private, detailed interview to ensure the continuing student has remained worthy to attend a Church sponsored institution and that the student fully understands his/her commitment to live the Brigham Young University–Idaho Honor Code. Please do not endorse students prior to verification that (1) they do live within your geographical ward boundaries, and (2) you have requested or received their membership record. If you have little or no knowledge of the student’s church activity and Honor Code compliance for the past several months, please contact the prior bishop before endorsing the student.

The First Presidency requests that the following question be asked of each member of the Church during the endorsement interview: Since your last ecclesiastical endorsement, “Have you done and will you continue to do your duty in the Church, attend your meetings, and abide by the rules and standards of the Church?” In addition, please determine the student understands the following:

• Attending their meetings means attending the ward that has their membership records and within whose geographical boundaries they live.
• Their commitment is to observe the standards of the Honor Code, both on and off campus at all times and in all places.
• They will observe the housing regulations and not allow any person of the opposite sex to enter their bedroom and they will scrupulously adhere to the curfew hours and visitation guidelines established by the University.
They will strive to maintain the image of Christ in their countenance and reflect modesty, comeliness, and cleanliness in their dress and grooming.
They will refrain from accessing pornographic or indecent material, either electronic or otherwise and understand that those materials are debilitating, addictive, and inappropriate.
They understand that “I didn’t know” or any other excuse will not justify breaking their commitment. They will keep their commitment to the Honor Code, the dress and grooming standard, and housing regulations without fail, making no excuse, giving no rationalization, and asking no exception, understanding that housing hours cover both morning and evening visitations.

If the student is LDS: the student lives within my ward boundaries and I have possession of his/her membership record:
“ Yes “ Requested

I have thoroughly interviewed this student with respect to the requirements found in the Honor Code, dress and grooming standards, and housing regulations. For LDS students, I certify that he/she is attending all of his/her meetings and doing his/her duty in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I am willing to endorse the above named student.
____________________________________________________
Ecclesiastical leader’s signature Date
____________________________________________________
Name Title
____________________________________________________
Address Telephone number(s)
____________________________________________________
Ward Unit Number Stake
Mail, Fax, or Deliver to: Dean of Students Office, 270 Kimball, Rexburg, ID 83440-1686 • (208)496-1120 • Fax (208)496-5120 or 496-5102

Brigham Young University-Idaho
Ecclesiastical Endorsement Instructions


General

All enrolled and continuing students must have an annual ecclesiastical endorsement. They must have their endorsement completed, submitted, and processed by the Dean of Students Office before they can register or participate in any University sponsored program which takes place after the end of the Winter semester. The endorsement should be completed prior to the start of the priority registration schedule to avoid any delay in the registration process.

Purpose

The endorsement fosters communication between students and ecclesiastical leaders and offers bishops an opportunity to review a student's understanding of and commitment to the Honor Code, dress and grooming standards, and housing regulations. The continuing endorsement will help ensure that students who are active Church members are not excluded through enrollment ceilings while inactive members enjoy the blessings of attending Church schools.

LDS Students

LDS students shall be endorsed by the bishop of the ward (1) in which they lived during the Winter semester and (2) that holds their current Church membership record.

Non LDS Students

Non LDS students shall be endorsed by (1) the local ecclesiastical leader, if the student is an active member of the congregation, (2) the bishop of the LDS ward in which they currently reside or (3) the Dean of Students.

Requirements

All students are expected to abide by the Honor Code, both on and off campus, which also includes the Academic Honesty Policy, dress and grooming standards, and housing regulations. LDS students must fulfill their duty in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, attend Church meetings, and abide by the rules and standards of the Church at all times and in all places. Students who are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are expected to maintain the same standards of conduct. They are encouraged to participate in services of their preferred religion.

Ecclesiastical Endorsement - Withdrawn

A student’s ecclesiastical endorsement may be withdrawn at any time by his/her ecclesiastical leader if it is determined that the student is no longer eligible for the endorsement. Students without endorsements will be required to withdraw, except in unusual circumstances. Individuals who are excommunicated, disfellowshipped, or disaffiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are not eligible to continue as a student by Board of Trustee policy. The decision to withdraw an endorsement may be reviewed through the administrative review process established by the Dean of Students.

Endorsement Form Availability

Campus bishops will be provided endorsement forms for their ward members. All other students may obtain a form from the Dean of Students Office (270 Kimball) or the information desks in the Manwaring Center and the Kimball Building. Forms will be available after March 5th and on the Dean of Students web site at: http://www.byui.edu/DeanOfStudents/ecclesiastical

Form Submission

Upon completion of the form it should be mailed, faxed or hand delivered to the Dean of Students Office by the bishop completing the endorsement. The bishop may choose to give the form to the student who will be responsible to submit it to the Dean’s Office.

Completed forms should be submitted as follows:
Dean of Students Office, 270 Kimball Rexburg, ID 83440-1686 • (208)496-1120 • Fax (208)496-5120 or 496-5102

Brigham Young University-Idaho Honor Code
(Please detach this portion and give to student as their own copy)


Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University-Hawaii, Brigham Young University-Idaho, and LDS Business College exist to provide an education in an atmosphere consistent with the ideals and principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. That atmosphere is created and preserved through commitment to conduct that reflects those ideals and principles. Members of the faculty, administration, staff, and student body at BYU, BYU-H, BYU-I, and LDSBC are selected and retained from among individuals who voluntarily live the principles of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Observance of such is a specific condition of employment and admission. Those individuals who are not members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are also expected to maintain the same standards of conduct. All who represent BYU, BYU-H, BYU-I and LDSBC are to maintain the highest standards of honor, integrity, morality, and consideration of others in personal behavior. By accepting appointment to the faculty, continuing in employment, or continuing class enrollment, individuals evidence their commitment to observe the Honor Code standards approved by Board of Trustee policy "at all times. . . and in all places" (Mosiah 18:9).

"We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous and in doing good to all men.... If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things."
–-Thirteenth Article of Faith

As a matter of personal commitment, faculty, administration, staff, and students of Brigham Young University, Brigham Young University-Hawaii, Brigham Young University-Idaho, and LDS Business College seek to demonstrate in daily living, on and off campus, those moral virtues encompassed in the gospel of Jesus Christ, and will:

- Be honest
- Live a chaste and virtuous life
- Obey the law and all campus policies
- Use clean language
- Respect others
- Abstain from alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, and substance abuse
- Participate regularly in church services
- Observe Dress and Grooming Standards
- Encourage others in their commitment to comply with the Honor Code

Specific policies embodied in the Honor Code include: (1) the Academic Honesty Policy (2) the dress and grooming standards, (3) the housing regulations, and (4) the Continuing Student Ecclesiastical Endorsement Requirements.

Academic Honesty

Brigham Young University-Idaho students should be honest in all their dealings. They should complete their own work and be evaluated based upon that work. They should avoid academic dishonesty and misconduct in all its forms, including but not limited to plagiarism, fabrication or falsification, cheating, and other academic misconduct. Students are responsible not only to adhere to the Honor Code requirement to be honest but also to assist other students in fulfilling their commitment to be honest.

Dress and Grooming Standards

The dress and grooming of both men and women should always be modest, neat and clean, consistent with the dignity adherent to representing The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and any of its institutions of higher learning. Modesty and cleanliness are important values that reflect personal dignity and integrity, through which students, faculty, administration, and staff represent the principles and standards of the Church. Members of the BYU-I community commit themselves to observe these standards which reflect the direction given by Board of Trustee policy and the Church Publication, For the Strength of Youth.

The dress and grooming standards are as follows:

Men

A clean and well-cared-for appearance should be maintained. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles or colors, and trimmed above the collar leaving the ears uncovered. Sideburns should not extend below the earlobe or onto the cheek. If worn, mustaches should be neatly trimmed and may not extend beyond or below the corners of the mouth.

Men are expected to be clean shaven; beards are not acceptable. The wearing of earrings and other body piercing is unacceptable. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.

Women

A clean and well-cared-for appearance should be maintained. Clothing is inappropriate when it is sleeveless, strapless, backless, or revealing; has slits above the knee; or is form fitting. Dresses and skirts must be knee length or longer. Hairstyles should be clean and neat, avoiding extreme styles and colors. Excessive ear piercing (more than one pair of earrings) and all other body piercing is inappropriate. Shoes should be worn in all public campus areas.

A complete version of these standards may be found in the Student Handbook or at the Dean of Students web site: http://www.byui.edu/handbbook. A copy of the Student Handbook is available at the Dean of Students Office in 270 Kimball.

Housing Guidelines

All single students must live in approved housing unless they live at home with their parents or have received approval through the Housing Office to live elsewhere. Variances may be granted by the Housing Office for students who live with a relative or local family friend in a situation that approximates the approval guidelines. Any variance granted is on a case-by-case basis and does not constitute Brigham Young University-Idaho approval of the location as an approved housing unit. The variance may be withdrawn by the University at any time.

Guests

Because overnight guests often cause interruption and inconvenience to others, all guests should be cleared with the apartment manager. No overnight guests of the opposite sex are permitted at any time. The tenant shall be responsible for any damage, beyond reasonable wear and tear, to the property by the tenant, members of the tenant's family, or guests.

Visitation Guidelines (By the Opposite Sex)

Men and women may visit in apartments of the opposite sex beginning at noon every day and ending at 11 p.m. daily. Visitors need to be in compliance with the following guidelines:
(a) There should always be at least three people in any apartment being visited by a member of the opposite sex.
(b) Drapes must be left open during the visit.
(c) Visitors of the opposite sex are not allowed in bedrooms at any time.
(d) Visitors must have the approval of the roommates before being allowed in the apartment.


Hours

Students should be in their own apartment by midnight on nights preceding a school day and 1 a.m. on nights not preceding a school day. Members of the opposite sex are to be out of the apartment at 11 p.m. daily. When attending University functions that end later than established curfew hours, such as plays and concerts, students should be in their apartments within 30 minutes after the event is over.

General

All students will conduct themselves in a manner consistent with the principles of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the Brigham Young University-Idaho Honor Code. Students will abstain from possession, use, serving, procuring, or consuming alcoholic beverages, tobacco, tea, coffee, or harmful substances. Involvement with gambling; pornographic, erotic or indecent material; disorderly, obscene, or indecent conduct or expressions; or with other offensive materials, expressions or conduct or disruption of the peace that, in the sole discretion and judgment of the university, is inconsistent with the principles of the Church and the Brigham Young University-Idaho Honor Code is not permitted. All guests of students must comply with the housing regulations while on the premises of University approved housing. All students are required to know the dress and grooming standards and abide by them.

For detailed information or answers to questions:
Dean of Students Office, 270 Kimball Rexburg, ID 83440-1686 • (208)496-1120 • Fax (208)496-5120 or 496-5102

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Wow, good thing that people in the Mormon cult have their "God given FREE AGENCY", right? Can you imagine if the Mormon cult tried to control every aspect of your life?!! LOL!!

They should just put up a fence like prisons have, with gaurd towers, etc. Isn't it amazing, how preocupied the Mormon Hierarchy is with every single movement of their students? Just remember, your Eternal life depends on these things, so don't screw up man!!

Samuel the Utahnite


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5 Comments:

At Sunday, August 26, 2007 4:20:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LoL, you are an Idiot.

First, NOTHING in the church says that you have to go to BYUI or BYU. in fact, they encourage you to go to your local school.

Second, as you obviously aren't a student, the honor code is, On your honor, That means that unless blatantly breaking the rules on campus in public sight, your are not going to have a person tailing you at all times.

Third, you completely misunderstand the concept of free agency, the Mormon Church does not prevent its members from Drinking alcohol, it does not stop its members from committing sins. It teaches them what is right and what is wrong and leaves the choice to them. If you think you are limited because you choose to live this standard of life, you are an Idiot.

Forth, BYU, and BYUI are PRIVATE schools, I know this concept is hard, but the government DOES NOT OWN THEM. That means that they can make whatever rule they want. Its like you are complaining that a catholic school forces its students to attend Religious education classes that force the kids to learn all about catholicism, well, it is a PRIVATE school so they can do that.

Nothing you posted in there is extreme, Heaven forbid a school tell their students they cant cheat (one of your read points). Heaven forbid a school tell their students they have to live up to a standard (Gee some schools FORCE kids to wear school uniforms, you're not complaining about that so much though). Everything the school asks the student to abide by is stuff that you are supposed to be doing anyways as a member of the church, I find it hard to believe that chastity before marriage all the sudden makes an extreme cult (Maybe we should start stoning people for adultery like the Jews before us did, of course they weren't a cult because lots of people belong to that religion).

Again, all this boils down to is the fact the mormons aren't required to go to one of the 3 mormon owned schools, nobody forces them to enroll from a church standpoint. So by going to one, A PRIVATE SCHOOL, you AGREE to obey the rules, I think you will be hard pressed to find another PRIVATE school in the nation that doesn't have a specific set of rules that its students have to live by in order to maintain enrollment.

 
At Sunday, November 25, 2007 11:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoa, you're pretty dang upset dude. That's what I don't quite get. Maybe you should use your time and effort on something else other than tearing down other people and their beliefs. They are obviously happy. It's just too easy to be a critic. Being cynical is too dang convenient. Have you ever tried living by these principles? I have. I have used my free agency to act against these principles for a long time in my life. I can therefore tell you, that living by these standards brings true happiness. But that's just me. There is something about "true" happiness that I love. Being able to lay my head on my pillow at night - that quiet time where it's nobody but me and my conscience... that's when you can really know if you're happy. So I suggest to just try it out. Don't just be a critic. There is no honor in that.

 
At Friday, October 15, 2010 8:37:00 AM, Blogger David Little said...

This is pretty funny. As the first guy said, nobody forces you to go here at all. In any job or university, you sign a contract for performance standards, and BYUI happens to have some moral ones. I'm not the biggest fan of micro-managing some of the standards at BYUI, some of them miss the point of an "honor" code, but I come here because at least in my department, I get great education at very little cost. Not all departments are as good yet, as the university is young, but it's getting better. Every administration in every university has ridiculous hoops to walk through. Silly goose.

 
At Friday, October 15, 2010 8:37:00 AM, Blogger David Little said...

This is pretty funny. As the first guy said, nobody forces you to go here at all. In any job or university, you sign a contract for performance standards, and BYUI happens to have some moral ones. I'm not the biggest fan of micro-managing some of the standards at BYUI, some of them miss the point of an "honor" code, but I come here because at least in my department, I get great education at very little cost. Not all departments are as good yet, as the university is young, but it's getting better. Every administration in every university has ridiculous hoops to walk through. Silly goose.

 
At Monday, July 30, 2012 7:49:00 AM, Blogger Leif said...

Complain if you want, but the Honor code, including the dress code is one of the reasons why so many businesses and gov agencies recruit at the Church schools. They want someone that is custom to living a high standard, willing and experienced at representing an institution that expects a standard of conduct that may be higher than the one you naturally live. If you don't like church schools, than don't attend them, but the quality of people and the standard they live and expected to live while attending school there is big draw for potential careers with good organizations. Failing to enforce them hurts their integrity, and puts potential careers with good companies in jeopardy.
Many private colleges do this. Even non-religious colleges. It is an extra level of "quality" they can add that places them above most of the state institutions that are not allowed to have such policies.

 

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