Saturday, September 29, 2007

Mormon Stake President R. James Molina, Doesn't Have The Cojones To Go Through With Announcing Lyndon Lamborn's Excommunication, After Being Exposed!!

Mormon leader declines to announce ouster
Lawn Griffiths, Tribune

Lyndon Lamborn was excommunicated from the Mormon church for doubting some of its claims, but on Sunday his stake president backed away from a plan to publicly announce his ouster.

Mormon ousted as an apostate

Stake President R. James Molina wouldn’t tell the Tribune why he refrained from making the announcement at the eight wards under his leadership.
Molina had told the Tribune last week that he intended to have bishops publicly announce the discipline taken against Lamborn, a fourth-generation member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, as a warning that he may spread blasphemy about the church.

Lamborn, 49, had gone before a disciplinary council of male elders on Aug. 19 where excommunication was ordered. Molina, president of the Mesa Arizona Salt River Stake, wrote to Lamborn in a letter dated Sept. 2, stating that “because of the nature of your excommunication and your involvement with the people of this area, an announcement will be delivered to the Melchizedek Priesthood quorums and Relief Society in each of the wards in our stake ... Sept. 23, 2007, that you have been excommunicated for apostasy.”

Excommunication allows him to be at church events, but not have membership privileges, wear temple garments or tithe.

Such a public announcement about an excommunication in the church is extremely rare, Mormon leaders confirmed.

It’s not clear whether Molina’s announcement was withheld as a result of the publicity the issue has garnered or whether he intends to do it at a later date.

Lamborn said Thursday he went to the Thunder Mountain Ward meeting Sunday expecting the announcement, then asked Molina why nothing happened.
Lamborn said the stake president told him “I haven’t made a final decision.”

Molina said Thursday that the Lamborn issue “is a private matter, so I don’t have anything to say to you guys on it.”

It's obvious to anyone with half a brain, exactly what happened here; Lyndon Lamborn went to the press and exposed R. James Molina's plan to humiliate and embarrass him and his family to the entire Stake, before R. James Molina got the chance to carry out his devious plan.

Fortunately, for people like Lyndon, Mormon Bishops and Stake Presidents like R. James Molina, are so stupid, clueless, caught up in their ego, and their so called "authority and power" and utter arrogance, devoid of any inspiration from on high; that they think that people like Lyndon would NEVER DARE question his so called "authority" or "spirit of discernment" and do what he did, by beating him to the punch and making it public.

Lyndon thwarted Jimmy's little plan of personal destruction and war that he was looking forward to starting, with Lyndon and his innocent family members and friends.

People like R. James Molina have no human decency, don't care what pain their pointless, unjustified actions will cause, because it's all for the cult, because the cult is TRUE, Joe's a Prophet, the BOM is any cost. Mr. Molina is hoping that by "being the man", he can maybe get a promotion within the corporation and maybe become a Seventy or gasp...even an Apostle?

After all, there is an opening since James E. "GOLD FILLINGS" Faust kicked the bucket and I'm sure he thought this might earn him some serious brownie points, by being a hard-ass for Joseph, Hinckley and the Mormon Jesus. Only problem; he was too dumb and lacking of any common sense, insight, inspiration or discernment, to realize what could possibly happen and ultimately did happen, by having the whole thing blow up in his face.

So much for his promotion eh? In fact, I'm pretty sure that he got a severe scolding and tongue lashing from the goons sitting on their golden thrones in Salt Lake City, for bring so much needless controversy and negative publicity to the Mormon cult.

The Mormon Hierarchy is desperate and really on their heels right now, trying to counter the power of the Internet. They are constantly running from and trying to cover up the truth of their history, their evil, vile and horrific teachings and doctrines, their countless lies, their racism, bigotry, homophobia, sexism, hate and condemnation of ALL other people and religions("whores of all the earth", "abominations", "Harlots", "False", "Corrupt", "of the Devil"), full exposure of the lack of any Book of Mormon artifacts, archeology, DNA, etc, and this was the last thing they needed right now.

Anyway, I greatly admire Lyndon and his courage for taking these thugs straight on and winning. They look horrible and he looks like a great, honest guy, who stood up for himself, the truth and his family and in turn, was treated unfairly, dishonestly and un-Christlike.

The Mormon cult and their cult leader Molina look like the fools they are, always have been and always will be....excommunicating a good guy for simply reading "REAL" Mormon history, found in "OFFICIAL" Mormon books(currently sold at Mormon owned and run Deseret/Seagull/BYU bookstores) and then discussing it with others, like family members and friends...GASP!!

I had no idea that simply reading and studying TRUE Mormon history, out of their official books(that they sell daily and profit from) and then discussing it with friends and family, would warrant an immediate excommunication and announcement to the entire Stake. It appears to me that "THEY'VE LOWERED THE BAR!!"

They should be ASHAMED of themselves!!

I guess Boyd K. Packer wasn't kidding, when he said the following:

"You seminary teachers and some of you institute and BYU men will be teaching the history of the Church this school year. This is an unparalleled opportunity in the lives of your students to increase their faith and testimony of the divinity of this work.
Your objective should be that they will see the hand of the Lord in every hour and every moment of the Church from its beginning till now."

"There is no such thing as an accurate, objective history of the Church without consideration of the spiritual powers that attend this work."

"Church history can be so interesting and so inspiring as to be a very powerful tool indeed for building faith. If not properly written or properly taught, it may be a faith destroyer."

"There is a temptation for the writer or the teacher of Church history to want to tell everything, whether it is worthy or faith promoting or not. Some things that are true are not very useful."

"That historian or scholar who delights in pointing out the weaknesses and frailties of present or past leaders destroys faith. A destroyer of faith—particularly one within the Church, and more particularly one who is employed specifically to build faith—places himself in great spiritual jeopardy. He is serving the wrong master, and unless he repents, he will not be among the faithful in the eternities."

"One who chooses to follow the tenets of his profession, regardless of how they may injure the Church or destroy the faith of those not ready for “advanced history,” is himself in spiritual jeopardy. If that one is a member of the Church, he has broken his covenants and will be accountable. After all of the tomorrows of mortality have been finished, he will not stand where he might have stood."

and finally:

"Remember: when you see the bitter apostate, you do not see only an absence of light, you see also the presence of darkness.

Do not spread disease germs!

Let's also remember that it was Boyd K. Packer(in "To Young Men Only"-AKA "The Little Factory Talk", General Conference Priesthood Session, October 2, 1976), advocating physical violence toward others, when he said:

"While I was in a mission on one occasion, a missionary said he had something to confess. I was very worried because he just could not get himself to tell me what he had done.

After patient encouragement he finally blurted out, "I hit my companion."

"Oh, is that all," I said in great relief.

"But I floored him," he said.

After learning a little more, my response was "Well, thanks. Somebody had to do it, and it wouldn't be well for a General Authority to solve the problem that way"

I am not recommending that course to you, but I am not omitting it. You must protect yourself."

Uh...yeah, Boyd K. Packer should have been excommunicated a LONG TIME AGO!!

So, I guess Boyd K. Packer wouldn't mind you guys also punching him in the face and "dropping him" too, if you're around him and don't like him, or something that he says or does? So have fun folks, just following his advice of using physical violence, that has the official "Packer Stamp of approval" for missionaries, but also prepare yourself for the ensuing lawsuit from Jesus' "one and only true" lawyers...LOL!!

I'm just guessing that if you can't even criticize them when the criticism is true(Dallin H. Oaks), that they won't let you get away with punching them in the face.


Samuel the Utahnite

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At Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. These stake presidents and bishops think they are gods and their word is final, until someone stands up to them. Then they will shut up and move away from conflict when in actual fact its an absence of cojones. And as one can see in this case, they want to embarrass the family just as much as the 'sinner' in these processes of trials and disciplinary councils in the church.
But kudos to Lyndon for going public with this. I'm my case its my wish to not inflict any more pain on my aging mother that stops me from going public with more examples of stake presidents and bishops abuses in the church. But the day she leaves this world or has to go to a Nursing Home, I’ll share these experiences.

At Sunday, September 30, 2007 2:32:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:38:00 PM, Blogger Elder Joseph said...


I look forward to hearing your story .

Its great that you are keeping up events .It inspires me as I seem to be preocccupied with Mormonism in all my spare time ... Writing to former missionaries , dropping hints with church members , supplying them with Free PBS Documentary's on DVD etc .I'd love to pass on other DVD's but I'll end up in Bishops Office .At least the PBS can't be labelled 'apostate' as its advertised all over the site ! lol

I keep teaching my missionaries.

The new 'Greenie' is amazed at what he's learnt in two visits ... The hat and stone was a shocker .... The blacks thing stunned him , he didn't know if he was in the correct world or not ! lol.... poor kid /he will struggle with his two years ahead ...

Yesterday we read many quotes by Brigham Young and Co teaching that Monogomy is the cause of Prostitution and Whoredoms !

The seasoned missionary said he'll refer to these quotes when he goes less active in 5 years time ! lol

They were even looking through My Bushman Book ! lol they were hungry to know more ..... but milk before meat !

Its amazing how receptive they are and they are LOOKING FORWARD to my next appointment ! hahaha

No more hostility for me .Two years investigating and my obvious expertise on their church has gained me some respect .

I hope you manage to get an interview with Lyndon .That would be interesting and inspiring for us all ...

I was just remembering when I first discovered your blog and came across the Blacks are Cursed quotes and things .It had a big impact on me ... I think many church members dismiss it off hand with their lousy excuses but the impression will always be on their mind , then add a few more things on that psychological shelf and it soon gets too heavy to carry as you know..

catch you soon ..

At Sunday, September 30, 2007 11:16:00 PM, Anonymous Crikey006 said...

Sorry, the anonymous is me Crikey006. I just forgot to add my name to the comment.

At Sunday, October 07, 2007 1:44:00 PM, Blogger Chris said...

Lack of "any Book of Mormon artifacts" and archeology, eh? Lying doesn't help your case.

Mormon Truth and Book of Mormon Evidences

At Friday, January 11, 2008 3:57:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Hell man! You need help! You are obsessed with this. Did your mother not breast feed you as a child? Seriously man get a hobby. No one is perfect in the world. Finding convicts in any church is easy. Look at the catholic church, it's pedophilmania over there! You need to do some research in books that aren't biased. Get a job and a life! My guess is you are either living in Utah and hate that no one likes you, or you were once part of that church and you got booted out. Bitterness is just sad man let it be... all you're going to get is a heart problems, ulcers, and hemorrhoids induced by stress. Calm down you'll make life easier.


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