Monday, August 08, 2005

David A. Bednar, Take A Bow, You Are Officially Crowned "The Kiss Ass Of The Century!!"



Lets take a closer look at our new junior Apostle. First of all there is a new Joseph Smith site that the Church has launched to tell all the world what a wonderful, monogamous man and Father he was.(In the search box, simply type POLYGAMY and report back HONESTLY how many items turn up...IT'S ZERO FOLKS!!) I'll be doing another post on this but as I just mentioned and proved...not one single mention of Polygamy or any of his other 32 or more wives!!

Not one mention of Joseph Smith struggling with Satan before the Father and Son appear changing the "official version" of the First Vision one more time. Well, all of the Apostles and First Presidency gave their testimony regarding Joseph Smith and here is the first line of Bednar's testimony: "As one of the weakest of the weak, I testify that God lives."

This is the same guy who kissed ass all the way to the top by naming a building at BYU Idaho after Gordon B. Hinckley?! Next thing you know, he's an apostle!! Coincidence? I think not!! Fact or Fiction? Sorry to say, it's all true!! He's bold and strong, does something that's never been done before, but he's one of the weakest of the weak?!! He's an Apostle of God, a special witness of Jesus Christ but he's one of the weakest of the weak?!! Whatever dude!!

Then he gives a ridiculous talk at BYU about the whole "two earrings" commandment by Hinckley. Yeah, it was only Hinckley's opinion but now, thanks to losers and kiss asses like Bednar, it's like a commandment, a revelation from God. In the same ridiculous speech, he tells the story of that guy who really loved that girl, thought he might even marry her but she wouldn't take out the second earring so he dumped her. He actually said that Gordon B. Hinckley was pleading with women to remove that second earring. Pleading, really?!! He made a simple statement of opinion, there was no pleading or revelation. It's all about power and control!! What a joke!!

But, then he says, "it wasn't ever about the earrings", it's about obeying the man named Gordon B. Hinckley, a "living oracle", Prophet, Seer and revelator. It's about obeying the little things so that you'll obey the big ones in the mind control cult!! The same man that couldn't detect that Mark Hoffman was a murderer, forger?!! Doesn't know anything about anything. Doesn't know if God was once a man or if the Church even teaches that? Doesn't know why people are gay or if they are born that way or not? Doesn't know why Blacks couldn't have the Priesthood? Never saw that Tsunami coming, did he? But he had Larry King's genealogy ready for him like the night before the Tsunami hit. Good thing God communicates to Gordo the important stuff and that we have stupid kiss asses like Bednar to back him up. Here's a link to the BYU talk for those that haven't had the "privilege" to listen to it:

Audio Link

Text Link


MP3 File


Here is the part of the talk that I'm referring to:

Sister Bednar and I are acquainted with a returned missionary who had dated a special young woman for a period of time. This young man cared for the young woman very much, and he was desirous of making his relationship with her more serious. He was considering and hoping for engagement and marriage. Now this relationship was developing during the time that President Hinckley counseled the Relief Society sisters and young women of the Church to wear only one earring in each ear.

The young man waited patiently over a period of time for the young woman to remove her extra earrings, but she did not take them out. This was a valuable piece of information for this young man, and he felt unsettled about her nonresponsiveness to a prophet’s pleading. For this and other reasons, he ultimately stopped dating the young woman, because he was looking for an eternal companion who had the courage to promptly and quietly obey the counsel of the prophet in all things and at all times. The young man was quick to observe that the young woman was not quick to observe.

Now before I continue, I presume that some of you might have difficulty with my last example. In fact, this particular illustration of the young man being quick to observe may even fan the flames of controversy on campus, resulting in letters of disagreement to the Daily Universe! You may believe the young man was too judgmental or that basing an eternally important decision, even in part, upon such a supposedly minor issue is silly or fanatical. Perhaps you are bothered because the example focuses upon a young woman who failed to respond to prophetic counsel instead of upon a young man. I simply invite you to consider and ponder the power of being quick to observe and what was actually observed in the case I just described. The issue was not earrings!


A Prophet’s pleading? Are you kidding me? This Bednar character is one of the biggest kiss ass losers in the 12. He will do anything for Gordo, say anything, etc. I knew guys like this on my mission. We have so much to look forward to with this guy. I'm sure since he is only 53 and like 10 years younger than anyone else, he plans on being the Prophet someday but for now, kissing Hinckley's ass up one side and down the other will suffice. Keeping in mind that these jerks know the truth, and are basically being paid off(with their living allowances) to keep up the charade, perpetuating a fraud and we are supposed to think that he is really being humble?!! His statement is ironically true....he is the weakest of the weak!!

Whether he meant it that way or not, whether he was just trying to sound humble or referring to the Apostles and First Presidency, it doesn't change the truthfulness of the statement. Actually, he is the most pathetic of the pathetic, just like the rest of the Apostles and First Presidency!! For now, he just wants everyone to assume that he is this humble, very meek and weak man as people bow down to him and roll out the red carpet with his new calling as "Mormon royalty" while at the same time, telling women how many earrings they are allowed to wear.

He reminds me of a Mission President when a Seventy shows up, like a little lapdog. Give him a few years and he won't be pretending to be humble anymore!! He knows that if can simply outlive everyone else, he will indeed one day be the man with the checkbook and the man that all "TBM's" worship, stand-up for and praise in song, as the Prophet of God!!

Samuel the Utahnite

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15 Comments:

At Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:28:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know that much about the Mormons but I do know that a person that requires physical proof to establish the truthfullness of a religous writing such as the Bible, Koran or Book of Mormon has missed the whole point of its creation. You are a bitter and misguided man when you make it your lifes mission tear down, demean and degrade fellow human beings. I truly feel sorry for you.

 
At Sunday, August 06, 2006 5:40:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know what happened but I do know that a follower of Christ would not be so hateful or vindictive. May you find peace in your sou.

 
At Thursday, August 10, 2006 1:57:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally some posts that I agree with... It takes way to much energy to "twist" everything into something it is not. I am sorry for you and what has happened in your life that allows you to think that you are saving the free world.
Like he would be able to say that today we are going to name a building after the President and then make it happen. Yes, he was probably in on a meeting or 2 that was able to push it along but do you really think it was on his shoulders allow?

No need to respond to this comment cause I am sure that you have some twisting to do... do you have a real job? Oh sorry, that would require a reply.

like anyway, man this is crazy...

 
At Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:36:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

your quite right: men need to be kiss ass guys to get anywhere in this church, but you've neglected to mention why this is, can I tell you? its the BoM quotes saying that contentions are of the devil (can't remember where exactly, maybe it was D&C>???)
To avoid the appearance of 'contention' guys will always say 'yes sir' and kiss ass.
But are they right??? who know. I think that asking questions should always be allowed, but in this church if one goes to Stake Pres about a Bishop, they defend bishop even by saying 'he makes mistake like all of us' etc. If you right a letter to Salt Lake about a Stake President, then Salk lake just sends your letter back to your Stake President, so what good does it do?????

deepmormon

 
At Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:24:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really don't think you have read the Book of Mormon thoroughly. There are things in the Book of Mormon to prove every accusation you have is wrong. Don't you understand that people join the church because they believe in their heart that it is true? Not because they have been sold on it. I'm sorry about whatever hapened to you.
I beleive that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is True with everything I am. Not because I've been brain washed but because I can see a change for the better in my life since I have become an active part of it. It has shown me nothing but love, strength, truth, and mastery of self control. It has brought me so much joy and comfort. Its all about figuring it out for yourself... even members are urged to find "personal conversion". They aren't going to make you beleive... Its your choice. I can just tell you from experience that life is easier and more worth while when you're apart of it. Forgive me but this is where I might get a little mean. We all know that people who make fun of others and try to put them down are insecure. Its also very important that people back up accusations with facts not opinions or twisted Ideas...If you want to know about the church, read the book of mormon or visit www.lds.org don't let some deluded cynic ruin it for you... I'm sorry but I have to defend what I know is true in my heart otherwise what else is there to live for?

 
At Sunday, October 01, 2006 12:13:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know... I'm a 28 year old, mormon Woman. Born and raised in the church, attended BYU-Idaho, under the stewardship of Elder Bednar. I haven't gone to church in three years. I drink and I smoke. I do a lot of things that are wrong, according to the church. But I will defend this man.

Elder Bednar is a man of God. He speaks sincerely, from the heart, and that is truly enough for me. I know he is sincere, that he believes in God, and that, believe it or not, he gave up a very lucrative career in order to take the position as President of Ricks College, now BYU-Idaho. And why did he take it? Because the Prophet asked him. What an example of faith. Giving up a livlihood that he KNEW would provide for him, and then some, in order to do what he believes God wanted him to do!

That man helped me when I thought no one would. He gave me faith to keep living rather than killing myself. I was a student there at the time. I may not agree with everything the church says, I may not attend regular meetings, but I do believe that David A. Bednar is a Man of God.

I rebuke you for your incorrect statements. I don't know what happened to you to make you so bitter and angry towards the church, but I hope you can make your peace someday. Before it's too late.

In peace, my Brother.

 
At Tuesday, February 27, 2007 4:19:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is my opinion of this person writing all this junk: What a LOSER!!!!! You do not have the faintest idea what your talking about!!!! Go and do something more productive with your time!!!!

 
At Friday, March 02, 2007 4:12:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a street in Ogden, Utah named after President Gordon B. Hinckley. Guess what...not one of the committee members, that pushed forward with this naming, have become apostles, a prisident of the Seventies, an area seventy, a member of the Office of the Presiding Bishoprick. I not up on how Ricks College became a 4 year university, but I'd bet my good boots that it was started before then president Bednar was asked and accepted the job.

 
At Friday, June 29, 2007 4:17:00 AM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

To all of the dumb shit losers that have commented on this post; you have your heads firmly planted right up your TBM asses!! My knowledge of the "real truth" of Mormonism is obvioulsy superior to what you think you know.

David A Bednar is a first class ASSHOLE and an arrogant prick. Anyone catch his brilliant "parable of the pickle" talk in the last General Conference. What a dumbass!! I bet you all sat there in amazement at his brilliance, showing your mentality level.

So TBMS, was it a direct command by Jesus Christ that women only wear one earring in each ear? So the loving, all powerful Mormon God would command Hinckley about how many earrings a woman can wear in each ear, but not protect a baby that is being raped and murdered or stop terrorist attacks? How stupid and ridiculous is that?

So your amazing God can't ever intervene in murders, torture, starvation, terrorism, etc, due to free agency; but he can command how many earrings a woman wears and promote through Bednar, the ending of relationships? I know your all simple minded, but good Mormon God, are you serious? THINK ABOUT IT!!

I guess it's all about priorities and it sure is sad to see the sheeple like you guys that have commented, just following along, without using one single braincell or one ounce of logic. What sad lives you live.

Oh by the way, I read the Book of Mormon 12 times on my mission...twice in English and 10 times in Spanish, so please apologize for suggesting that I'm not familiar with the precious and plagiarized book of Mormon fraud.

Oh yeah, and Gordon B Hinckley is an arrogant asshole too, just like Joseph Smith, your first Prophet of fraud, sex and lies!!

Remember now...be extremely Christlike in your responses to me, because your temple recommends depend on it and you're all really good and loving Christians...LOL!!

Samuel

 
At Friday, July 06, 2007 2:51:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Samuel,
It's me again. Wow, you really are angry. I just read some of your comments again (which I won't do again because unlike you I have a life).

Just wanted to check in to see what activities you'll be participating in this weekend to help you "feel better" about yourself.

Enjoy the JD!!

 
At Sunday, July 08, 2007 8:10:00 AM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

Well, as suspected(I knew he couldn’t resist, due to his obvious mental illness), Anon asshole did respond and I just thought I'd let everyone know. However, he left 5 comments in less than an hour(OCD), all rambling about my multiple sins I've committed, backed by one false assertion and accusation after another, then claiming that he knows me...LOL!!

His messages don't really even deserve a response, but when someone is so wrong and so out in left-field and accusing me of all manner of shit...well, I can't resist responding to the asshole Jose/Billsjane and exposing them for the fraud they are...LOL!!

Let me just list everything that he accused me of, in Email after Email, as this individual is really fucked in the head and they know it, as do I.

What's funny is that I know my life and who I am, as do many others and this person clearly doesn't, thus exposing themselves, by accusing me of so many things that I've never done. It's just funny that they think they are so intelligent and are really so stupid and I want everyone to see and know how dumb they really are and what a true TBM is like in Mormonism. I love exposing idiots like this, I really do!!

Also, I strongly encourage this person, that claims to know me so well and all the details of my life, to expose me TODAY to the world and post my identity on multiple sites, all over the Internet, since everyone has been wanting to know for the last 2 years who I really am. It’s time the truth came out, so go for it!!

Just be 100% sure that you're absolutely right and make sure you have all the facts, as well as deep pockets, for the ensuing libel lawsuits after you expose the wrong person, for all the world to know.

Anyway, here's the list of everything they've accused me of and the main quotes from the 5 emails, which I share openly, since the person they are describing is not me and I find it rather humorous. I will respond to each Email after I put the dumb fuck’s quotes in italics.

Email #1-10:04 PM:

"As I suspected I HIT THE BULLSEYE!

Let's refresh our memories a little...you struggled with the law of chastity and the word of wisdom before your mission but somehow slipped through the cracks and served and "honorable mission".......sorry about that, I had to catch my breath from laughing so hard. Anyway, back to your life story. You came home from your mission apparently attended BYU but we both know you never graduated. Probably kicked out for breaking the honor code hence the real beginning's of your anger. Somehow got married in the temple (poor girl...here's hoping she's free of you now) and yet after struggling for years with the law of chastity and the word of wisdom you have now apparently "found the truth!" We are all so happy for you."


Wow, you really are an ignoramus, aren't you? Which bullseye did you hit, the one between your legs...LOL!! You are wrong on every count and accusation, which you state as facts. Please share the details with everyone that you think you know about my life, who I had sex with and when, what alcoholic beverages I drank, which are my favorites...LMAO... and good luck!!

First of all, I have never drank, nor smoked, nor done drugs in my entire life and have never even been tempted. I was raised by great Parents and had great friends who never did that stuff and I was as clean as a missionary can possibly be, which I was very proud of, when I went on my mission and I had never committed any sexual sins and I had nothing major to repent of or confess, unlike many missionaries I knew on my mission and from High School.

Sure, I masturbated here and there, but who didn't, and I had quit and repented about a year before my mission, to make sure I was worthy, since masturbation is such a big sin in Mormonism, next to murder, and will keep you off of the mission and out of the Celestial Kingdom, thus not being able to have an eternal family.

So, I didn't "slip through the cracks", you dumb fuck and you have no idea what your talking about once again, do you? Still trying to catch your breath from laughing so hard, you stupid ass?!!

I "apparently" attended BYU? I absolutely attended BYU and I absolutely did graduate, which is just another wrong fact about me. That also means that I wasn't kicked out for violating any honor code, because I was there almost 5 years and got my degree. Oops again!!

If you really knew me, you'd know that for sure, without a doubt, especially since it's posted right in my profile and has been there for 2 years. So you doubt that I went to BYU and that I'm maybe lying in my profile?

Of course, if you actually knew me, as you claim to, you'd have no reason to doubt now, would you? Your handle on the English language is so poor, that you expose yourself without even realizing it, just by using the word "apparently", which speaks a thousand words...LOL!!

I was a die-hard Mormon back then, just off my mission and I still was a TBM up until two years ago, when I discovered the Mormon fraud, so why would I have been angry back then and about what? Sure, I got fucked over on my mission multiple times, but I chalked it up to “imperfect people” in the “perfect church” and moved on with my life, trying to forget all the bad, and focus on the positive, like they teach us and brainwash us to do.

"Somehow got married in the temple?" Why somehow, when I was always completely worthy and she's still with me now and we're very happy, along with our children. Are you really as stupid as fuck or what dude? You don't think that I know who I am or what has transpired in my life both past and present? LMAO!!

"After struggling for years with the law of chastity and the word of wisdom you have now apparently "found the truth!"

LMFAO!! Again, I've never drank any alcohol in my entire life you stupid fucker; which I'm proud of and I've never struggled with the law of chastity and you are just embarrassing yourself more and more and looking really really stupid and getting worse with each comment. I'm glad you're happy for me though...LOL!!)

Email #2-10:29:

"Samuel wake up...we all know who you are...you're the guy who on the outside wore the white shirt and tie all those years but on the inside was sinning left and right. C'mon, you remmeber those days, a little pornography here and little drink there.

I can just see you right now staring at your computer screen wishing so bad you knew who I was."


Again, wow...what can I say without having to repeat myself? "Sinning left and right?" Doing what exactly? Oh yeah, “porno” now has been added to the list and “drinking” again...LOL!!

Are you sure you weren't wasted or stoned when you wrote these comments, or were you just born naturally punch-drunk? Did your mommy drop you on your head when you were a baby?

I had NEVER seen any type of porno before my mission, even with acquaintances that got Playboy delivered to them(and they offered), because I wanted to “be worthy” and do the right thing, as I was preparing for my mission. Sure I've seen it since then and I enjoyed it, but big deal, again, who hasn't and who cares? Oh my God, I've seen tits in Playboy or a sex scene in an R rated movie...my life is over and as Dallin H. Oaks says, “it's worse than doing cocaine or hard drugs.” What a joke!!

It's hard to watch regular TV or go to the movies and not see boobs or sex, but who gives a shit, it's just part of life. It is you that has issues with this, not me or my wife.

So once again, you are dead wrong dude and looking stupider by the second. Now put away your booze and porno and get your had off your dick, okay? LMAO!! This must be therapy for you or something, to be able to confess your sins and guilt?

Oh, and I'm looking at my computer feeling sorry for you, because you are one of the dumbest fucks I've ever known in my life and I'm actually starting to have pity for your pathetic ass, which I can’t believe and I KNOW that you don't know me and never have and never will.

Email #3-10:34(I'm posting this entire comment, just so that everyone can see how disturbed this person is, repeating the same thing over and over and over....good Mormon God, get some professional help!!)

Couldn't keep the commandments Couldn't keep the commandments Couldn't keep the commandments Couldn't keep the commandments

Samuel didn't keep the law of chastity - check

Samuel didn't keep the word of wisdon - check

Samuel is full of pride - check

Samuel has a potty mouth - check

Samuel couldn't keep his temple coventents - check

Samuel couldn't pay tithing - check

Hey...look on the bright side, you definately are consistent :>)


LMAO again...and the only thing that is correct on there, is that I have a potty mouth and that didn't happen until I left the Mormon cult and started to encounter dumb mother fuckers like this asshole. Was that potty enough for you dumb fuck? What a fucked up fucker...asshole...son of a bitch, fucking degenerate...LOL...that felt so good...LMAO!!

Email #4-10:51:

Hey Samuel, I have an idea for the next "therapy session" with all your fellow ex members who are now so happy and free (and yet for some reason are really so bitter and lonely, unless of course you're all together)

Why don't you go around the room and talk about which commandment it was that you couldn't keep so you eventually left the church. Just for fun take a poll because I'm guessing 100% of all participants will confess to the law of chastity and the word of wisdom.

despite all the junk you say on this site we both know the real reason you're miserable is because you couldn't do it. You just couldn't control yourself. You just couldn't keep the commandments.


First of all, quit calling me Samuel and call me by my real name, since you know who I am. I'm talking first, middle and last name, okay? I hate it when people I know call me Samuel...you dumb fuck!! Have some decency and address me correctly.

Secondly, I've never been to an ex-Mormon therapy group, so if you think you saw me there, you are once again an idiot and fucked in the head, which we all know anyway, by your sad comments.

Oh, and if we did that poll you're talking about, 99% would say NONE of the commandments, because we discovered "the truth" and left on our own, not committing sins, you stupid, brain-dead fuck!! I mean on top of just stating complete bullshit opinions as fact, you are really really dumb...and I mean like born stupid, no common sense and a brain that is barely functioning.

I guess there’s nothing they can really do for that, so you just have to try and assimilate yourself into society, but the sad thing is, with your born stupidity; you stick out like a sore thumb. There are special places where you can go and fit in better and make some friends though and if I were you, I’d strongly consider that. One such place will give you special meds and has rubber walls and straitjackets. They might even give you some Internet time, so that we can stay in touch with each other, since we know each other and everything. I can clearly see why you remain Mormon, despite knowing the truth.

Oh yeah, and we're back again to "the word of wisdom" and "law of chastity" as being the reason that not just myself, but now ALL ex-Mormons left the cult. Dude, you are seriously FUCKED in the head, demented and as dumb as a box of rocks.

You sound like a parrot, just repeating the same thing over and over and over, with no idea what you're talking about and ZERO proof to back up any of your claims and the sad thing is...you know this, but keep on going!!

It seems pretty obvious to me though that you are describing not only Joseph Smith(got drunk the night before he died and had sex with little girls and other men's wives, in the name of the “Mormon God”), but yourself in these comments and that it must be you that has "word of wisdom" problems, "law of chastity" problems, "porno addiction", and that it is you breaking all of the commandments, you can't pay your tithing, are lying in your temple recommend interviews, and who knows what awful things you are doing in your personal life, to family members and friends, if you have any? How are your therapy sessions going there Billsjane/Jose? Of course, I’m just stating my opinion, as it seems pretty obvious.

You are a very mentally unstable person and you really need help, desperately, before you do something awful to innocent people that don't deserve it, all in the name of your Mormon God. It is you, that cannot control yourself, so please get that professional help!!

Oh, and please get a basic spell checker too...LOL!!

Email #5-10:59:

Samuel my boy you really need to be honest about the things you post...you were a "faithful member of the church"....FAITHFUL? I don't think wacking off in your bed at night, viewing pornography on a daily basis, downing a beer every weekend and lying your way through interviews so you could go on a mission, get a temple recommend etc really counts as "faithful?"

Certainly a man of your amazing knowledge and new found "freedom" knows that you shouldn't say things that aren't true.


First of all, I ain't "your boy", so go fuck yourself!!;)

Secondly, I was faithful and not "wacking off in my bed at night(okay, once in a while but then I repented...LOL), viewing pornography on a daily basis, downing a beer every weekend and lying your way through interviews so you could go on a mission, get a temple recommend etc."

Yeah, when I was getting wasted on beer and booze, while “wacking it” and “watching porno on a daily basis”, I was staying in the Marriott, owned and operated by the CEO J. Willard Marriott, current Mormon Area General Authority and Seventy back in the Virginia area. What always saved me from utter destruction though, was that Book of Mormon in the drawer and thank the Mormon God for that!!

I’d always, constantly, around the clock, have a beer in one hand, my dick in the other, with the porno playing and I’d put down my beer, open the drawer and keep one hand on the Book of Mormon and other one on my dick and then eventually, the Book of Mormon won and I removed my hand off of my dick, grabbed the remote and turned off the TV and then poured my booze down the drain. Wow...what would have happened if I didn’t have the Book of Mormon? LMAO!! Oh and I did wash off the remote, so no worries...LOL!!

Again, It is my personal opinion that you have to be describing yourself there once again and your problems/issues, because that certainly isn't me or anyone I know. You are making very libelous statements pal and you'd better have some facts to support what your saying or you're gonna be in a world of shit one day.

We have freedom of speech in the USA, which I obviously strongly support and we're welcome to any opinion we want to have and tell anyone we want to go FUCK THEMSELVES; but when you start stating personal things about people you don't even know, as true fact, openly and publicly accusing them of doing this and doing that, with no supporting or corroborating evidence or facts...you are on very dangerous ground and that is not allowed.

This is why I encourage you to come out and tell the world who I am ASAP and give them all of your evidence at the same time. I also encourage you to do a podcast with me, so that we can talk about all of this publicly and again, that will be your chance to expose me for the fraud and liar you claim I am and to tell everyone who I am. I want people to hear your voice, so that maybe someone out there can identify you and get you the help you are in desperate need of. Is this what the Mormon cult has done to you?

Don't be a pussy or coward now and just do it, like Spencer "pervert-better off dead" Kimball used to say. Just let me know where I can go read about myself and I'll look forward to our podcast together, getting it all out on the table, with no rules, guidelines or censorship. Sound good asshole?!!

Talk to you soon and take care now,

Samuel

 
At Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:56:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI, The post from "deepmormon" above is not associated with DeepMormon.com - felt this was important to point out.

 
At Monday, February 04, 2008 9:10:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alma 24: 30
30 And thus we can plainly discern, that after a people have been once enlightened by the Spirit of God, and have had great knowledge of things pertaining to righteousness, and then have fallen away into sin and transgression, they become more hardened, and thus their state becomes worse than though they had never known these things.

 
At Tuesday, February 12, 2008 10:23:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take Alma 24:30 to heart. If going to church and having testimony is wrong then I do not want to be right.

 
At Friday, April 23, 2010 12:08:00 AM, Blogger Paul Fisher said...

That right there says a lot. "If being a Mormon is wrong, then I don't want to be right." That's the state of most TBM's. My mother, bless her soul, made a very similar statement to me last year. It was something like "If I find out I'm wrong after I die, I'll be Ok with it. I'll accept it. I have no worries."

 

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