Friday, September 09, 2005

Mormon Temple Changes And How The Evil And Offensive Death Penalties Have Evolved From Brutal To Now Non-Existent













The temple endowment picture that I used is from:
http://www.lds-mormon.com/veilworker/endowment.shtml

Well, I've been wanting to write this post for a long time and the time has come. I guess it's time to mock God openly and officially break my temple secrecy vows that I made to never ever reveal these "secret and sacred" things. Of course, it helps to know that it's all bogus!! And no, I'm not going to and I wouldn't rather, slit my throat from ear to ear as the Mormon Church made me promise to do before 1990. Gee, and people wonder if this is a cult!! REALLY?!! Is there really any question?!! For those out there that are reading this and wondering if the Mormon Church is a cult, you won't have to wonder anymore after this post.

Even you "TBM's" out there have to admit that what I'm about to share is very disturbing, offensive and evil but is really what the Mormon Church actually did in the temple. I will now give you all a link where you can actually
listen to the entire ceremony as it was recorded right in the temple so that you can hear them for yourself. I know without a doubt what was in the ceremony up until 1990 because I went through at least 15 times. So, no one, I repeat no one, can tell me what I experienced and what I'm about to say, is a lie or not true.

Those of you that don't believe it, are simply either in deep denial, brain-washed, confused or just lost in the mind-numbing cult called Mormonism!! The facts are there, there have been great books written and I just gave you a link where you can go read it and even listen to it. For those of you that are still hedging or "TBM's", don't worry, God will not punish you for reading or listening to the temple ceremony. Why you ask? Because it never came from God in the first place and the oaths and Promises that you make in the temple, are just to men or nobody, not to God.

Anyway, I will continue on now. I will be as thorough as I can and share what I consider to be the most important changes and of course the penalties. For those that have already seen this, it will confirm it for you and for those that haven't seen this, that went through the temple after the changes in 1990, you'll be stunned and shocked. Every time that I read these evil penalties that I once agreed to, I'm still sickened and stunned that I ever went along with it, along side my Mom and Dad, friends and other Family members. We all agreed together, in the temple, that we would rather slit our throat, cut out our hearts and cut open our stomach than to reveal "the secrets" of the temple. It's just sick!! What a demented fraud the Mormon Church is and what a cult!!


I'm not sure how the Church has been able to overcome this but I want to help get this information out there. Also, everyone that reads this, feel free to copy this and share it with the world. Post it on your blogs, email it to your "TBM" friends. Let's get the truth out there more and more everyday!! The sites that I reference, especially the Tanner's have done so much but we have to keep doing it and spreading it like wildfire so that everyone can know it.

Okay, here we go.....

I'm going to begin with the
1931 ceremony. For those that want to study more about 1845/46 Nauvoo Endowment or the 1879 version, it is included on the page that I will give you as a link at the end of this post.

Here is where people are given their last Chance to back out if they want to from the 1931 ceremony:

And here I would ask if any of you desire to retire at this stage of the proceedings. If so, you have now an opportunity to do so by raising the right hand-No hands raised; very well.

Now the first token of the Aaronic Priesthood and it's penalty:

FIRST TOKEN OF AARONIC PRIESTHOOD

Adam: You will now arise, push back the seats, place the robe on the right shoulder, put on your caps and moccasins, and receive the first token of the Aaronic priesthood.
And you will not forget that the utmost secrecy is to be observed with respect to these proceedings. They are not to be even spoken of to each other.

The left arm is here placed at the square, palm to the front, the right hand and arm raised to the neck, holding the palm downwards and thumb under the right ear.

Adam: We, and each of us, covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the first token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty.
Should we do so, we agree that our throats be cut from ear to ear and our tongues torn out by their roots.

Adam: All bow your heads and say Yes.

As the last words are spoken the right hand is drawn swiftly across the throat and the hands dropped from the square to the sides.

Now the second token of the Aaronic Priesthood and it's penalty:

Peter: The brethren and sisters will now stand, push back the seats, place the robe on the left shoulder, and receive the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood. We and each of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal the secrets of this, the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, grip or penalty. Should we do so,
we agree to have our breasts cut open and our hearts and vitals torn from our bodies and given to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field. All bow your heads and say yes.

The Sign is made by placing the left arm on the square at the level of the shoulder, placing the right hand across the chest with the thumb extended and then drawing it rapidly from left to right and dropping it to the side.

The Name is the given name of the candidate.

The Grip is given by clasping the hand and pressing the thumb in the hollow between the first and second knuckles of the hand.

Now the First token of the Melchizedek Priesthood and it's penalty:

FIRST TOKEN MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD

Peter: The brethren and Sisters will now stand, push back the seats, place the robe on the right shoulder, and receive the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood.

The Sign is made by bringing both hands to the square, palms to the front.

Peter: We and each of us do covenant and promise that we will not reveal any of the secrets of this, the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign or penalty.
Should we do so, we agree that our bodies be cut asunder in the midst and all our bowels gush out.

Peter: All bow your heads and say yes.

As the last words are spoken the hands are dropped till the thumbs are in the center of the stomach and drawn swiftly across the stomach to the hips, and then dropped to the sides.

The Name of this token is the Son, meaning the Son of God. Members of the Melchizedek Priesthood belong to the Order of the Son of God.

The Grip is given by placing the thumb on back of hand and the tip of forefinger in the center of palm, representing the piercing of the hand by a nail. It is called The Sign of the Nail.

Now the second token of the Melchizedek Priesthood and their is no Penalty but reminds everyone that God will no be mocked:

SECOND TOKEN MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD

Peter: The brethren and sisters will now stand, push back the seats, place the robe upon the left shoulder, and receive the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood

There is no penalty attached to this,
but we are told the obligation of secrecy is the same, for God will not be mocked.

The Sign is made by elevating both arms above the head to represent the crucifixion.
The word Pale is spoken, the arms dropped to the square, Hale, and then to the sides. Hale -thus- Pale, Hale, Hale.

The Grip is made by grasping the hand, the forefinger on center of wrist and little fingers locked. There is a tradition that when our Saviour was crucified, the nail drew out between the fingers with the weight of his body, and the executioner then drove the nail through the wrist for better security. This Grip is called the Patriarchal Grip or Sure Sign of the Nail.

The following obligations are now taken with the right arm at the square:

Now, some of the different laws that were covered:

LAW OF SACRIFICE

You and each of you do covenant and promise that
you will sacrifice your time, talents and all you may now or hereafter become possessed of to the upbuilding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. ' All bow your heads and say yes.

LAW OF CHASTITY FOR MEN

You and each of you do covenant and promise that
you will not have sexual intercourse with any of the opposite sex except your lawful wife or wives who are given you by the holy priesthood. All bow your heads and say yes.

LAW FOR WOMEN

You and each of you do covenant and promise that
you will not have sexual intercourse with any of the opposite sex save your lawful husband, given you by the holy priesthood. All bow your heads and say yes.

LAW OF VENGEANCE

You and each of you do solemnly promise and vow that you will pray, and never cease to pray, and never cease to importune high heaven to avenge the blood of the prophets on this nation, and that you will teach this to your children and your children's children unto the third and fourth generation. All bow your heads and say yes.

Now, this is a right toward the end of the ceremony and right before passing through the veil and includes the five points of fellowship that has now been removed:

Endowee: The second token of the Melchizedek Priesthood - The Patriarchal Grip or Sure Sign of the Nail.

Lord: Has it a name?

Endowee: It has.

Lord: Will you give it to me?

Endowee: I can not for I have not yet received it. For this purpose I have come to converse with the Lord behind the veil.

Lord: You shall receive it upon the five points of fellowship through the veil. These are, foot to foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand to back, and mouth to ear.

The five points of fellowship are given by putting the inside of the right foot to the inside of the Lord's, the inside of your knee to his, laying your breast close to his, your left hands on each other's backs, and each one putting his mouth to the other's ear
, in which position the Lord whispers:

Lord: This is the sign of the token: Health to the navel, marrow in the bones, strength in the loins and sinews, and power in the priesthood be upon me and my posterity through all generations of time and throughout all eternity.

Lord: (Without changing position) What is this?

Endowee: (Answering as before) The second token of the Melchizedek Priesthood.

Whereupon the candidate, taught by the Lord, repeats the formula which has been whispered in his ear.

Lord: That is correct.

The Endowee is then taken to the opening by the attendant, who gives three more raps with the mallet.

Lord: What is wanted?

Attendant- Adam, having conversed with the Lord through the veil, now desires to enter his presence.

Lord: Admit him.

As he says this he extends his hand and welcomes the candidate into the Glory Room. He is now the lord over his women and the three raps being again sounded, the man having assumed the part and place of the Lord, asks the female attendant what is wanted.

Attendant: Eve having been true and faithful in all things desires to converse with the Lord through the veil.

Lord or man: See that her garments are properly marked, present her at the veil and her request shall be granted.

And so on over the same ground again, save that it is Eve in place of Adam who must be tested for admission.

Here was a quote by Brigham Young after Joseph Smith's death and how and why the Law of Vengeance came to be:

... Brigham raised his hand and said, "I swear by the eternal Heavens that I have unsheathed my sword, and I will never return it until the blood of the Prophet Joseph and Hyrum, and those who were slain in Missouri, is avenged. This whole nation is guilty of shedding their blood, by assenting to the deed, and holding its peace." ... Furthermore, every one who had passed through their endowments, in the Temple, were placed under the most sacred obligations to avenge the blood of the Prophet, whenever an opportunity offered, and to teach their children to do the same, thus making the entire Mormon people sworn and avowed enemies of the American nation (The Confessions of John D. Lee, p.160).

According to the Tanners, the law of vengeance was removed in 1827, so it appears that it most likely wasn't in the 1931 ceremony as posted above but everything else was the same.


Now, let's move to the
1984 ceremony. Now I'm not really clear on this, but did the 1931 ceremony stay the same until 1984? It appears that it did but I still need to research this and find out. I can't imagine that it would, with those graphic penalties but I'm not sure when it changed between 1931 and 1984. Then again, the Mormon Church is so slow to change that it is very possible. If those of you out there remember going through the temple before 1984, like in the 70's, please email me and tell me what you remember.

Now, we will move onto the 1984 ceremony for review:

Here was their chance to back out plus their new name:

You have had a New Name given unto you, which you were told never to divulge, nor forget. This New Name is a keyword which you will be required to give at a certain place in the temple today. The Endowment is to prepare you for exaltation in the Celestial Kingdom.

If you proceed and receive your full endowment, you will be required to take upon yourselves sacred obligations, the violation of which will bring upon you the judgment of God; for God will not be mocked. If any of you desire to withdraw rather than accept these obligations of your own free will and choice, you may now make it known by raising your hand
.

The Law of Sacrifice:

THE LAW OF SACRIFICE

ELOHIM: Brethren and sisters, you are about to be put under covenant to obey and keep the Law of Sacrifice, as contained in the Old and New Testament. This Law of Sacrifice was given to Adam in the garden of Eden, who, when he was driven out of the garden, built an alter on which he offered sacrifices; and after many days, an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying: "Why dost thou offer sacrifice unto the Lord?" And Adam said unto him: "I know not, save the Lord commanded me." And then the angel spake saying: "This thing is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, which is full of grace and truth. Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou dost in the name of the Son, and thou shalt repent, and call upon God in the name of the Son forevermore."

The posterity of Adam down to Moses, and from Moses to Jesus Christ offered up the first fruits of the field, and the firstlings of the flock, which continued until the death of Jesus Christ, which ended sacrifice by the shedding of blood.
And as Jesus Christ has laid down his life for the redemption of mankind, so we should covenant to sacrifice all that we possess, even our own lives if necessary, in sustaining and defending the Kingdom of God.

All arise. Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you solemnly covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this alter that you will observe and keep the Law of Sacrifice, as contained in the Old and New Testament, as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

ELOHIM: That will do.

(patrons resume their seats.)

The First token of the Aaronic Priesthood and the penalties:


ELOHIM: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand.

The name of this token is the New Name that you received in the temple today. If any of you have forgotten the New Name, please stand.

The sign is made by bringing the right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers close together, and the thumb extended.

(The Officiator, again at the altar, demonstrates the sign and penalty as the descriptions are given.)

ELOHIM: This is the sign. The execution of the Penalty is represented by placing the thumb under the left ear, the palm of the hand down, and by drawing the thumb quickly across the throat to the right ear, and dropping the hand to the side.

I will now explain the covenant and obligation of secrecy which are associated with this token, its name, sign and penalty, and which you will be required to take upon yourselves. If I were receiving my own Endowment today, and had been given the name of "John" as my New Name, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign at the same time representing the execution of the penalty:

I, John, covenant that I will never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and penalty.
Rather than do so, I would suffer my life to be taken.

(The Officiator demonstrates the execution of the penalty.)

Here was the law of the Gospel:

THE LAW OF THE GOSPEL

PETER: A couple will now come to the altar. (Witness couple comes to altar as before.) Brethren and sisters, this couple at the altar represent all of you as if at the altar, and you will be under the same obligations as they will be. We are required to give unto you the Law of the Gospel as contained in the Book of Mormon and the Bible;
to give unto you also a charge to avoid all light mindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord's anointed, the taking of the name of God in vain, and every other unholy and impure practice, and to cause you to receive these by covenant.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square. (this is done.)

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you will observe and keep the Law of the Gospel and this charge as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

PETER: That will do. (All patrons sit down.)



Now, the second token of the Aaronic Priesthood and it's penalty:

PETER: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand. The name of this token is your own first given name if you are going through the temple for your own Endowment, or, if you are going through for the dead, it is the first given name of the person for whom you are officiating.

The sign is made by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign. (The officiator demonstrates.) The Execution of the Penalty is represented by placing the right hand on the left breast, drawing the hand quickly across the body, and dropping the hands to the sides. I will now explain the covenant and obligation of secrecy which are associated with this token, its name, sign, and penalty, and which you will be required to take upon yourselves.

If I were receiving my own endowment today, and if my first given name were "David," I would repeat in my mind those words, after making the sign, at the same time representing the Execution of the Penalty:

I, David, covenant, that I will never reveal the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and penalty. Rather than do so I would suffer my life to be taken.

All arise. (All Patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign.

Now, repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant, at the same time representing the Executing of the Penalty.

I, _________, think of the first given name, covenant, that I will never reveal the second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name, sign, and penalty. Rather than do so, I would suffer my life to be taken. That will do.

(All patrons sit down.)

The law of chastity:
THE LAW OF CHASTITY

PETER: A couple will now come to the altar. (Witness Couple comes as before.) We are instructed to give unto you the law of Chastity; this I will explain. To the sisters it is, that no one of you will have sexual intercourse except with your husband to whom you are legally and lawfully wedded. To the brethren it is that no one of you will have sexual intercourse except with your wife to whom you are legally and lawfully wedded.

Sisters please arise. (All women stand up.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar that you will observe and keep the Law of Chastity, as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

SISTERS: Yes.

PETER: That will Do. (All women sit down.) Brethren, please arise. (All men stand up.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar that you will observe and keep the Law of Chastity, as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

BRETHREN: Yes.

PETER: That will do. (All men sit down.)

Now, here is the FIRST TOKEN OF THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD OR SIGN OF THE NAIL and the penalty:
PETER: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand. Then name of this token is "the Son", meaning the Son of God.

The sign is made by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; the right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together, the thumb extended, and the thumb is placed over the left hip. (The Officiator makes the sign.) This is the sign.
The penalty is represented by drawing the thumb quickly across the body and dropping the hands to the sides. (Officiator completes the action.)

I will now explain the covenant and obligation of secrecy which are associated with this token, its name, sign and penalty, and which you will be required to take upon yourselves. If I were receiving the Endowment today, either for myself or for the dead, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign, at the same time representing the execution of the Penalty:

I covenant in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so, I would suffer my life to be taken.

All arise (All patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail by brining the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; also by bringing the right hand forward, the palm down, the fingers close together, the thumb extended, and by placing the thumb over the left hip. This is the sign.

Now repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant, at the same time representing the Execution of the Penalty:

I covenant in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name, sign and penalty. Rather than do so, I would suffer my life to be taken.

(Patrons perform the action as the Officiator guides them.)

That will do. (All patrons sit down.)

Now here was THE LAW OF CONSECRATION.

PETER: A couple will now come to the alter. (The Witness couple comes forward, and kneels at the altar as before.) We are instructed to give unto you the Law of Consecration as contained in the book of Doctrine and Covenants (The Officiator picks up a copy of the Doctrine and Covenants from the altar, and holds it up in view of all patrons.), in connection with the Law of the Gospel and the Law of Sacrifice which you have already received.
It is that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents and everything which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square.

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in this, (The Officiator holds up a copy of the Doctrine and Covenants again.), the Book of Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

PETER: That will do. (All patrons sit down.)

Now the SECOND TOKEN OF THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD, THE PATRIARCHAL GRIP, OR SURE SIGN OF THE NAIL. Also, it included the chanting of Pay Lay Ale which was removed in 1990 among many things. Again, there is no penalty for revealing this one, so I guess I'm okay...what a relief!!

PETER: We will now give unto you the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or the Sure Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying sign. This token is given by clasping the right hands, interlocking the little fingers, and placing the tip of the forefinger upon the center of the wrist, in this manner (The Officiator demonstrates this token with male witness.). We desire all to receive it. All arise.

(As the witness couple returns to their seats various temple workers administer the token as before, and each patron sits after receiving it.)

If any of you have not received this token, You will please raise your hand.

This token has a name and a sign, but no penalty is mentioned. However, you will be under just as sacred obligation of secrecy in connection with this token and sign as you are with the other tokens and signs of the Holy Priesthood which you received in the temple this day. The name of this token will not be given unto you at this stage in the Endowment, but it will be given later on.

The sign is made by raising both hands high above the head (The officiator demonstrates.), and while lowering the hands repeating aloud the words:

Pay Lay Ale
Pay Lay Ale
Pay Lay Ale

(The hands are lowered in three distinct movements, one move for each word. [1] Pay--hands above head, [2] Lay--both arms dropped to the square, [3] Ale--both hands lowered to the height of chest.)


PETER: When Adam was driven out of the Garden of Eden, he built an altar and offered prayer, and these are the words that he used, which interpreted are: "Oh God, Hear the words of my mouth!", repeated three times.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or Sure sign of the Nail, by raising both hands high above the head, and while lowering the hands repeating aloud the words:

Pay Lay Ale Pay Lay Ale Pay Lay Ale

(As the patrons make the sign they repeat words with recording as described before.)

PETER: That will do. (all patrons sit down.) Brethren and sisters, with the robe on the right shoulder you are prepared to be taught the True Order of Prayer; and to be introduced at the Veil.

Now, the 1984 version, still included the Five Points of Fellowship as shown below:

LORD: You shall receive it upon the Five Points of Fellowship, through the Veil.

(The officiator demonstrates the Five Points of Fellowship through the Veil with the temple worker who represents the Lord, as each point is mentioned.)

PETER: The Five Points of Fellowship are "inside of right foot by the side of right foot, knee to knee, breast to breast, hand to back, and mouth to ear." The Lord then gives the name of this token, and asks......

Now there was also a LECTURE AT THE VEIL for those that went through for the first time.

(The following lecture is only given when there are patrons present who are receiving their own Endowments, or when the Endowment room is full, and additional time is needed to present the patron at the Veil.)

Now onto the cleansed, greatly altered Temple ceremony of 1990 that was "revealed"(yeah right) to Gordon B. Hinckley. Of course, that was after a survey that was sent out to high ranking Mormons where they "cut out" the gruesome throat slitting, disemboweling, etc. Amazing that they actually did it until 1990 isn't it? Like I said, they are slow to change. Also, lets keep in mind that this is the so called "inspired" temple ceremony that is supposed to be unchanging and revealed directly from God to Joseph Smith. I guess that would be kind of like Polygamy, Polyandry and Blood Atonement was also revealed directly to Joseph Smith. I think we can see a definite pattern here of a lying deceitful false Prophet and fraud, Joseph Smith.

Anyway, onto the
1990 ceremony and the credit goes to The Tanners for this one:

Here was the statement from the First Presidency that was made in the temple regarding the 1990 changes before the ceremony to those that were going through after the changes had been made:

THE MORMON TEMPLE ENDOWMENT CEREMONY

(1990 VERSION)

INTRODUCTORY ANNOUNCEMENT: Before beginning the Endowment service, we present the following statement from the First Presidency.

FIRST PRESIDENCY'S STATEMENT: Since the temple Endowment was first administered in this dispensation, minor changes have been made from time to time by the First Presidency and Council of the Twelve, acting unitedly in their capacity as
Prophets, Seers and Revelators.

After an exacting and extensive review, and following solemn prayer on many occasions in the Upper Room of the Salt Lake Temple, modifications in the Endowment ceremony have been recently made by the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve.
Those of you who are familiar with the ceremony will recognize these changes which do not affect the substance of the teachings of the Endowment, nor the covenants associated therewith.

As with the other aspects of the Endowment,
you are under solemn obligation not to discuss these sacred matters outside of the temple.

May you be blessed of the Lord in the selfless service which you give in His holy house. Sincerely, the First Presidency.

Here is their chance to bail out and a stern warning that God will not be mocked:

You have had a New Name given unto you, which you were told never to divulge, nor forget. This New Name is a keyword which you will be required to give at a certain place in the temple today.

Your Endowment is, to receive all those ordinances in the House of the Lord, which are necessary for you, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and the tokens, pertaining to the Holy Priesthood, and gain your eternal exaltation.

If you proceed and receive your full endowment, you will be required to take upon yourselves sacred obligations, the violation of which will bring upon you the judgment of God; for God will not be mocked. If any of you desire to withdraw rather than accept these obligations of your own free will and choice, you may now make it known by raising your hand.

The Law of Obedience:



THE LAW OF OBEDIENCE

ELOHIM: Inasmuch as Eve was the first to eat of the forbidden fruit, if she will covenant that from this time forth she will obey the Law of the Lord, and will hearken unto your counsel as you hearken unto mine, and if you will covenant that from this time forth you will obey the Law of Elohim, we will give unto you the Law of Obedience and Sacrifice, and we will provide a Savior for you, whereby you may come back into our presence, and with us partake of Eternal Life and exaltation.

EVE: Adam, I now covenant to obey the Law of the Lord, and to hearken to your counsel as you hearken unto Father.

ADAM: Elohim, I now covenant with thee that from this time forth I will obey thy law and keep thy commandments.

ELOHIM: It is well. Jehovah, inasmuch as Adam and Eve have discovered their nakedness, make coats of skins as a covering for them.

JEHOVAH: It shall be done, Elohim.

The law of sacrifice:

THE LAW OF SACRIFICE

ELOHIM: Brethren and sisters, we will now put you under covenant to obey and keep the Law of Sacrifice, as contained in the Holy Scriptures. This Law of Sacrifice was given to Adam in the garden of Eden, who, when he was driven out of the garden, built an altar on which he offered sacrifices; and after many days, an angel of the Lord appeared unto Adam, saying: "Why dost thou offer sacrifices unto the Lord?" Adam said: "I know not, save the Lord commanded me." And then the angel spake saying: "This is a similitude of the sacrifice of the Only Begotten of the Father, who is full of grace and truth. Wherefore, thou shalt do all that thou dost in the name of the Son, and thou shalt repent, and call upon God in the name of the Son forevermore."

The posterity of Adam down to Moses, and from Moses to Jesus Christ offered up the first fruits of the field, and the firstlings of the flock, which continued until the death of Jesus Christ, which ended sacrifice by the shedding of blood. And as Jesus Christ has laid down his life for the redemption of mankind, so we should covenant to sacrifice all that we possess, even our own lives if necessary, in sustaining and defending the Kingdom of God.

All arise. Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you solemnly covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar that you will observe and keep the Law of Sacrifice, as contained in the Holy Scriptures, as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

ELOHIM: That will do.

Now here is THE FIRST TOKEN OF THE AARONIC PRIESTHOOD with now, amazingly, with no penalty.....God changed his mind I guess. Boy, God sure does get confused doesn't he?


ELOHIM: We will now give unto you the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood with its accompanying name and sign. Before doing this we desire to impress upon your minds the sacred character of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its name and sign, as well as that of all the other tokens of the Holy Priesthood, with their names and signs, which you will receive in the temple this day. They are most sacred, and are guarded by solemn covenants and obligations made in the presence of God, angels and these witnesses to hold them sacred and under no condition will you ever divulge them, except at a certain place in the temple that will be shown you.

The First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood is given by clasping the right hands and placing the joint of the thumb directly over the first knuckle of the hand, in this manner.

(The Officiator, representing Elohim, takes the right hand of the male witness, who represents Adam at the altar, and demonstrates the token. The male witness, who remains kneeling, is obliged to raise his hand above his head while receiving the grip, thus enabling the patrons to view the manner in which the token is to be given.)

The sign is made by bringing the right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers close together, and the thumb extended. This is the sign.

(The Officiator, again at the altar, demonstrates the sign as the description is given.)

ELOHIM: I will now explain the covenant and obligation which are associated with this token, its name and sign which you will be required to take upon yourselves. If I were receiving my own Endowment today, and had been given the name of "John" as my New Name, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign:

I, John, covenant before God, angels and these witnesses, that I will never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name and sign.

(The Officiator demonstrates the sign and drops his hands after the words of the covenant are completed.)

ELOHIM: All arise.

(All patrons stand.)

ELOHIM: Each of you make the sign of the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, by bringing your right arm to the square, the palm of the hand to the front, the fingers together, and the thumb extended. This is the sign. Now, repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant.

I ________, think of the new name, covenant before God, angels, and these witnesses, that I will never reveal the First Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name and sign.

That will do. (Patrons sit down.)

The law of the Gospel:

THE LAW OF THE GOSPEL

PETER: A couple will now come to the altar. (Witness couple comes to altar as before.) Brethren and sisters, this couple at the altar represents all of you as if at the altar, and you will be under the same obligations as they will be. We are required to give unto you the Law of the Gospel as contained in the Holy Scriptures;
to give unto you also a charge to avoid all light mindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord's anointed, the taking of the name of God in vain, and every other unholy and impure practice, and to cause you to receive these by covenant.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square. (this is done.)

Each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses, that you will observe and keep the Law of the Gospel and this charge as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your heads and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

PETER: That will do. (All patrons sit down.)

SECOND TOKEN OF THE AARONIC PRIESTHOOD

PETER: If any of you have not received this token, please raise your hand. The name of this token is your own first given name if you are going through the temple for your own Endowment, or, if you are going through for the dead, it is the first given name of the person for whom you are officiating.

The sign is made by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign. (The officiator demonstrates the sign.) I will now explain the covenant and obligation which are associated with this token, its name and sign, which you will be required to take upon yourselves.

If I were receiving my own endowment today, and if my first given name were "David," I would repeat in my mind those words, after making the sign:

I, David, solemnly covenant before God, angels and these witnesses, that I will never reveal the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name and sign.

All arise. (All Patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood by bringing the right hand in front of you, with the hand in cupping shape, the right arm forming a square, and the left arm being raised to the square. This is the sign.

Now, repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant:

I _________, think of the first given name, solemnly covenant before God, angels, and these witnesses, that I will never reveal the Second Token of the Aaronic Priesthood, with its accompanying name and sign. That will do. (Patrons drop their hands by their sides.)

(All patrons sit down.)


Now, here is THE LAW OF CHASTITY

PETER: A couple will now come to the altar. (Witness Couple comes as before.) We are instructed to give unto you the law of Chastity; which is, that each of you shall have no sexual relations except with your husband or wife to whom you are legally and lawfully wedded.

All please arise. (All patrons stand up.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square. You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses that you will observe and keep the Law of Chastity, as it has been explained to you. Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

PETER: That will Do. (All patrons sit down.)

Notice that they took out the word "intercourse" and now it's "relations!!"

Now onto the FIRST TOKEN OF THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD OR SIGN OF THE NAIL:

PETER: If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand. The name of this token is "the Son", meaning the Son of God.

The sign is made by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; the right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together with the thumb extended. (The Officiator makes the sign.) This is the sign.

I will now explain the covenant and obligation which are associated with this token, its name and sign and which you will be required to take upon yourselves. If I were receiving the Endowment today, either for myself or for the dead, I would repeat in my mind these words, after making the sign:

I solemnly covenant before God, angels, and these witnesses, in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name and sign.

All arise (All patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail by bringing the left hand in front of you with the hand in cupping shape, the left arm forming a square; the right hand is also brought forward, the palm down, the fingers close together with the thumb extended. This is the sign.

Now repeat in your mind after me the words of the covenant.

I solemnly covenant before God, angels, and these witnesses, in the name of the Son that I will never reveal the First Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood or Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying name and sign.

(The Patrons drop their hands at their sides.)

That will do. (all patrons sit down.)

Now the THE LAW OF CONSECRATION:

PETER: A couple will now come to the altar (The Witness couple comes forward, and kneels at the altar as before.) We are instructed to give unto you the Law of Consecration as contained in the book of Doctrine and Covenants (The Officiator picks up a copy of the Doctrine and Covenants from the altar, and holds it up in view of all patrons.), in connection with the Law of the Gospel and the Law of Sacrifice which you have already received.
It is that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you bring your right arm to the square.

You and each of you covenant and promise before God, angels, and these witnesses at this altar, that you do accept the Law of Consecration as contained in the Doctrine and Covenants, in that you do consecrate yourselves, your time, talents, and everything with which the Lord has blessed you, or with which he may bless you, to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, for the building up of the Kingdom of God on the earth and for the establishment of Zion.

Each of you bow your head and say "yes."

PATRONS: Yes.

PETER: That will do. (all patrons sit down.)


Now, the SECOND TOKEN OF THE MELCHIZEDEK PRIESTHOOD, THE PATRIARCHAL GRIP, OR SURE SIGN OF THE NAIL plus the part where they took out "pay lay ale" and put in "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth."
PETER: We will now give unto you the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or Sure Sign of the Nail, with its accompanying sign.

This token has reference to the crucifixion of the Savior. When he was placed upon the cross, the crucifiers drove nails through the palms of his hands, then fearing that the weight of his body would cause the nails to tear through the flesh of the hands, they drove nails through his wrists. Hence, in the palm is the Sign of the Nail, and in the wrist is the Sure Sign of the Nail, or the Nail in the Sure place.

This token is given by clasping the right hands, interlocking the little fingers, and placing the tip of the forefinger upon the center of the wrist, in this manner (The Officiator demonstrates this token with male witness.). We desire all to receive it. All arise.

(As the witness couple returns to their seats various temple workers administer the token as before, and each patron sits after receiving it.)

If any of you have not received this token, you will please raise your hand.

This token has a name and a sign. You will be under the same sacred obligation in connection with this token and sign as you are with the other tokens and signs of the Holy Priesthood which you have received in the temple this day. The name of this token will not be given to you at this stage in the Endowment, but it will be given later on.

The sign is made by raising both hands high above the head (The officiator demonstrates), and while lowering the hands repeating aloud the words: "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!" repeated three times.

PETER: When Adam was driven out of the Garden of Eden, he built an altar and offered prayer, and these are the words that he uttered: "Oh God, Hear the words of my mouth!", repeated three times.

All arise. (All patrons stand.) Each of you make the sign of the Second Token of the Melchizedek Priesthood, the Patriarchal Grip, or Sure Sign of the Nail, by raising both hands high above the head, and while lowering the hands repeating three times the words:

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

Oh God, hear the words of my mouth!

(As the patrons make the sign they repeat words with the recording as described before.)

PETER: That will do. (all patrons sit down.) With the robe on the right shoulder you are prepared to be taught the True Order of Prayer; and to be introduced at the Veil.



Now, here is a great link showing and exact comparison between the 1984 and 1990 Temple Ceremony with the words that were deleted from 1984, crossed out. They put the new words that were added in 1990 in red. As you'll be able to see, the changes went beyond the penalties and were very very extensive. Entire paragraphs were deleted and other ones added. For the First Presidency to say that the changes were minor, is just another lie in a long list of lies, deceit and cover-ups. I guess they are used to it now after doing it since 1830 and passing it on from one generation to the next. Joseph Smith gave all future General Authorities the perfect example and formula for lies and deception and they have followed it to a T!!



Now, the "lecture at the veil" and the "five points of fellowship" are also gone. Here is a listing of all of the temple changes from the Tanners website.


Summary of Major Changes in the LDS Temple Ritual from 1842-2005

1. Washing and Anointing was changed from being naked and having a full bath to being completely covered by the garment and shield, with symbolic anointing to forehead (see Evolution of the Mormon Temple Ceremony, by Jerald and Sandra Tanner, Utah Lighthouse Ministry, 2005 ed., pp. 39-40; Mysteries of Godliness, p. 32).

2. When the garment was first introduced it was only worn for special occasions. However, in a special meeting of the Quorum of the Anointed in 1845 George A. Smith declared that the garment should be worn "at all times" (Mysteries, p. 146).

3. Originally the garment was made of muslin, one-piece, full length with long sleeves and a collar. In 1916 President Joseph F. Smith emphasized that the garment was never to be altered (Evolution, p. 45, Mysteries, p. 150).

But in 1923 the First Presidency sent a notice to stake and temple presidents announcing that the garment could be modified. The sleeve could now end at the elbow, the leg could be shortened to just below the knee, the collar eliminated and the crotch closed. They could also be made of finer knitted material, even of silk, instead of the coarse, unbleached cotton material that was used originally.

However, the full-length garment was to be worn in the temple. Then in 1975 it became optional and one could elect to wear the shorter garment in the temple. In 1979 the shorter garment was again modified to a two-piece version (see Evolution, pp. 44-47; Mysteries, pp. 138, 142-154).

4. Originally only men participated in the temple ritual. In 1843 women were included (see Mysteries, p. 62).

5. The Second Anointing was added in 1843, in which couples were sealed to become gods (see Mysteries, pp. 62-68, 123).

6. A Christian minister, in clerical outfit, making a bargain with the devil to teach false doctrine was added in the 1850's, then removed in 1990 (see Evolution, pp. 32-33; Mysteries, p. 80 footnote 23).

7. Prior to 1877 the endowment ceremony was only performed for the living. David Buerger writes:

The first recorded endowments for the dead were performed in St. George on 11 January 1877, according to temple president David H. Cannon. Shortly thereafter Wilford Woodruff, the new temple president, received a revelation about endowments and sealings for his dead, which he recorded in his journal . . . Accordingly on 1 March 1877 Woodruff spent his seventieth birthday in the St. George temple with 154 women performing proxy endowments for deceased women who had been or were being sealed to Woodruff (Mysteries, pp. 108-109).

8. Dances were often held in the Nauvoo temple after an endowment session (see Mysteries, pp. 85-6). Parties were sometimes held in the temple. After Wilford Woodruff's sealing to the women mentioned above one hundred people joined him for a Birthday/Wedding party in the St. George temple (see Mysteries, p. 109).

9. In 1894 the Law of Adoption, where a man could have unrelated men sealed to him as his sons, was changed to just sealing those in one's own family (see Evolution, pp. 42-44).

10. Oath of Vengeance against those who killed Joseph Smith was removed in 1927 (see Evolution, p. 22; Mysteries, pp. 133-140).

11. Wording and demonstration of penalties (drawing thumb across throat, heart and bowels) went through several modifications prior to being removed in 1990 (see Evolution, p. 16; Mysteries, pp. 39, 52-54, 141).

12. Chant of "Pay Lay Ale" changed to "Oh God, hear the words of my mouth" in 1990 (see Evolution, p. 36).

13. Mocking of the Christian doctrine of God was removed in 1990 (see Evolution, p. 80).

14. Lecture at the veil delivered at sessions for those taking out their endowments for the first time was removed in 1990 (see Evolution, p. 37; Mysteries, pp. 81, 110-113, 137).

15. Embrace on the Five Points of Fellowship at the veil was removed in 1990 (see Evolution, pp. 29-30; Mysteries, pp. 55, 78, 170).

16. Woman's Oath of Obedience to her husband was modified in 1990 (see Evolution, pp. 33-35).

17. Length of temple ceremony has varied through the years (see Mysteries, p. 80).

Now, here is a link about the
changes that were made to the temple ceremony in 2005.

So, for those that have made it to the end, you can see how hideous the ceremony used to be. It went from promising to tear out your tongue by it's roots, to simply pantomiming slitting your throat to nothing. One constant is that they still say that God will not be mocked, etc. I find it amazing that the First Presidency basically plays down the changes, being minor, as not affecting everything and then once again warns you not to discuss it outside of the temple. So much secrecy, so many secrets, etc, is the sure sign of a cult, an evil cult. At least they took out the bloody oaths that never should have been there in the first place.

In conclusion, as I've shown here the temple ceremony has gone through "extensive" changes through the years and are not "minor" in nature. This ceremony was supposed to be a direct revelation from God to Joseph Smith and unchangeable. Well, we can see two things very clearly; the ceremony keeps changing, even as of 2005 and that it is not unchangeable, therefore not a "direct, unchangeable, perfect" revelation from God to Joseph Smith. A perfect God wouldn't have to evolve, right? Come on man!! So God screwed up how many times? Oops he said, I better take that out. So God is just going by trial and error, etc..insane!! The Mormon God would have to be either drunk or stoned to make as many mistakes as he has made. I can't believe that these frauds called Prophets, Seers and Revelators, have been able to get away with this crap for as long as they have.

The Mormon Church is a horrible, awful, mind-controlling, evil cult that used to make people promise to God, angels and his witnesses and Family, that they would rather slit their throats before revealing the secrets of the temple. Is it just me or does anyone else see something wrong with this? You "TBM's" out there, stand up and pay attention to this post!! This is what your "perfect Church" used to teach!! I just hope that by spreading this type of information to the world and to Church members that aren't already aware of it, we can help to continue to chip away at this evil cult called "Mormonism." I just really believe that as more and more of this information gets out to the mainstream, everywhere, that it will have a devastating impact on the Mormon Church and that is my entire point of this post. With the Internet now, we can spread it everywhere quickly!!


I strongly encourage everyone reading this post to share it with at least one person or more and so on. Let's get this information out there for the whole world to discuss and try to digest. Thanks you guys for reading this "long" post and for all that you are doing to help spread the real "Mormon Truth" to the world!!

Samuel the Utahnite

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At Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:53:00 PM, Anonymous Kyle said...

Found your page while randomly Google Hopping. The information included is very interesting. I'm not trying to argue with you, but I do have to say that it seems to me that the fact that the Mormons have modified their Temple ceremony to something more civilizied is a mark in their FAVOR, not a mark against them, as you seem to be saying.

Seems to me that all organized religions are merely the result of someone's desire to control other people. If that's true, (and it sure looks like it is,) then hey, I give the Mormons credit for at least acknowledging that they had to change with the times. I know your point is probably "Then they shouldn't claim to be the One True Church", but let's be honest here- who doesn't do that? What Church doesn't claim to be "the" Church? Very few people are strong-willed enough to join an honest Church- i.e. one that would be willing to say "Hey, we have no Divine Mandate, we're just a bunch of people trying to serve God."

 
At Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:17:00 PM, Blogger Samuel the Utahnite said...

I take that you aren't a Mormon, because you are missing several key points in your simplified response.

First of all, I went through the penalties with my Mom, Dad, family, friends, etc. We stood there in unison, agreeing to take our own lives(commit mass suicide), before revealing the secrets of the temple, by pantomiming slitting our throats(from ear to ear with the thumb) and then the chest and stomach.

If you don't see anything wrong with that, then I can't help you. Please point to other mainstream churches, or even cults, that make their members do this, to return and live with God.

Furthermore, the Mormons claim that the temple ceremonies were revealed directly from God and were perfect and unchanging in nature. Therefore, they couldn't have ever changed, no matter how offensive and vile they were, right?

They've been changed numerous times and were mild when I first went through and once included an "oath of vengeance" against the US Government, to kill their members whenever possible.

They also had the naked touching for the washings and anointings, where a strange man or woman, would reach under your robe(which was open on the sides and you were naked under it) and touch your body all over with oil. An old man was about an inch away from my package, when he anointed my inner thigh and he had tears streaming down his face. That was pretty traumatic for me at 19, not even knowing beforehand that it was gonna happen, since it's all a "SECRET."

Also, I don't care what other churches claim, I'm dealing with the claims of Mormonism, that preaches that "All other churches are abominations and of the devil." I don't think too many other churches claim that everyone else is from the devil.

I will say that the fanatical, nut-job Evangelicals, are far worse than the Mormons, as they literally go out and shout in people's faces, that they will burn in hell forever. At least Mormons send out 19 year old boys and 21 year old girls to tell them nicely that their church is an abomination from Satan.

I spent 30+ years in Mormonism, going to Sacrament, Priesthood and Sunday School(not to mention teaching the classes), along with 4 years in seminary, 2 years in Argentina on a mission, 4 years in institute, went to BYU, got married in the temple and trust me when I say that I know what I speak of.

Since learning the truth and asking simple questions of friends and family, I've lost 4 friends and 4 family members that will never speak to me again, because I asked a basic question or two. Mormonism is a cult, not a church and there's a big difference. Cults make people agree to kill themselves by slitting their throats and churches don't. I hope this cleared up any confusion you might have had.

Take care,

Samuel

 
At Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:24:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been a member all of my life. I am not active and have serious reservations against many of the man-made rules and regulations. However, your just plain angry which of course you have the right to be.

Just one little helpful hint when quoting someone or something, you should probably place the source(s) close to the actual quote so atleast it can be cross-referenced.

I have heard many angry peoples against the church that have never made the commitments of the church and I see their ignorance is life itself. You are a seasoned source of this information and I by my own issues share some of the sentiments that you expressed.

My opinion is that you are just angry. But when you commit much of your life to a system and find that it is a mockery to you it is going to stir that level of anger, so I understand. I am amazed at your energy to persue this in such detail, thats cool though to everyone their own.

 
At Friday, March 16, 2007 2:49:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

grow a pair, and stop being a baby

 
At Saturday, September 15, 2007 9:29:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am so sorry you have lost the spirit. You are obviously trapped in a world of sin and are running from yourself. So often if a person can't overcome a sin that's against church policy they end up leaving the church. We are given commandments to give us more freedoms and you obviously are trapped in your sins. I see the statement here that you have to approve the comments made- I don't care if this is published - I wanted to tell you personally that I am sorry that you have lost the light of Christ and have chosen to live in spiritual darkness. Good luck to you in this life and the next. By the way I did a google search looking for someone who I talked to at a church monument. He said the church was a cult. I have thought about him and wanted to find out what happened to him. Otherwise I would never have happened on your site. I just feel so bad for you. As the bretheren say- please come back. There's so much here eternally for you and your family. Think of the long term effects your actions will have on your children and their children. What a great thing it would be for them to have a righteous dad who channeled his energy and time to the building UP of the kingdom and preparing for the eternities with a loving Heavenly Father and Mother. I for one am so grateful for modern day revealation. We just had a FHE on modern revealations. How greatful I am that I belong to a church that at it's head receives instruction still. A church that claims that revealation stopped with the Bible- to me is a dead church. I am so glad that Gordon B. Hinckley receives direction from the Lord and I consider the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints a living and modern day church. Please go to the Lord in humble prayer for your and your posterity's sake-- if you go in sincerety and humility you will once again know of it's truthfulness. You have only been deceived by satan. I promise!!(sorry for any misspelled words or grammer errors- please don't use any of them against me)

 
At Sunday, January 13, 2008 2:52:00 PM, Blogger Carol V. said...

God bless you for having the courage to tell the truth about Mormonism!

Because He Lives!
Carol
cjv123@comcast.net

 
At Saturday, February 16, 2008 9:20:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just have to say WOW! How does anyone buy all that crap? I'm so glad my parents figured out what a lie the Morman church was before I was born. NO church should have so many secrects its not right. The Bible is the ONLY true word of Jesus Christ & God! I know Jesus was placed apon the cross for my sins & the sins of the world and all one needs to do to be saved is believe that Jesus died for us & came back alive so that we may live forever!
No where in the Bible does it say you must preform all the "works" the mormans want you to do to be saved! And once you are saved your always saved you don't loose your salvation! Being saved doesn't mean you won't sin it just means you should sin less than before! It took me 31 years to relize just how much I needed Jesus in my life and now that I have found him my life is So much better for it! (And nobody had to fondle me naked)I'm glad that the poster of this board found the real truth in Jesus! Amen!

 
At Sunday, April 06, 2008 3:15:00 PM, Blogger Dr. Faust said...

I think it is a very good thing for people like Samuel to express their opinions. Most members of the LDS church have not read anything that can be considered reliable about their churches history. They have been cleaning it up and covering anything true that can disprove them for over a hundred years. They have even purchased and suppressed authentic documents that cast a dark shadow on their churches history. They have continually changed their doctrine very subtly to improve their argument, just as they claim other churches have done to the bible. (http://www.irr.org/mit/CHANGOD.html) Very funny. They have also improved the text of the Book of Mormon considerably so as to make it appear more authentic. (http://www.saintsalive.com/mormonism/bomchanges.htm)

But most of all they have spun the history of their early leaders until they appear to be good, moral men. They were in reality far from that. Here is a link that plainly shows Brigham Young's true character ( http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/brighamyoungswives.htm )
He "married" women who were already married and still living and sleeping with their lawfully married husbands. He did not consider these marriages lawful (his own words) and only celestial, but he of course screwed them all as he pleased, even as they were living with their own families.
Joseph Smith did the same.

http://www.wivesofjosephsmith.org/

http://www.mastermason.com/masonicmoroni/Philalethes/mormon_baptism_of_william_morgan.htm
http://www.xmission.com/~research/about/docum4.htm
http://www.masonicmoroni.com/Documents/bymcpap1210.htm

And their argument that they married old helpless widows that needed support is crap because they "married" mostly girls ages 14-25 many of whom were already happily married. Oh and Joseph told Emma only after he had gotten a very young girl that was in his home pregnant.
SO, all you angry Mormons that think that Samuel's stating of the fact is a sign of sin or anger; you definitely need to learn a whole lot more before you continue spreading your uninformed opinion. I have only shared a few easily proven things here. There are thousands examples of solid proof that have been documented and thoroughly researched by historians. Take some time and read a book that has not been censored and falsely concocted.
And Samuel keep up the good work. Truth could never be wrong, and lies could never be right.

 
At Thursday, May 21, 2009 9:07:00 AM, Blogger Wrightnut said...

I have been an active member of the LDS Church all my life and you have not revealed anything here I have not heard before. I could take the time to intelligently repudiate all of your arguments, but I don't have further time to waste on you. In addition, there is no need to contend with you. You, yourself, through your ranker, crudity, vulgarity and lack or respect for things others hold sacred, betray who you are.

 
At Thursday, November 25, 2010 11:30:00 PM, Blogger Meliss said...

If something is okay, it doesn't have to be kept a secret.

As a non-Mormon living and working in Utah, I am convinced more and more everyday that this church is without a doubt a cult. I have visited with missionaries many times and work with and care about many Mormons who are wonderful, but it breaks my heart to see them give their lives over to the control the church has over them. I have a Book of Mormon and believe that with any logical thinking, you will see the incredibility of the book.

I am a Christian by the way, not guilted and burdened by rules and works. It doesn't scare me at all to tell people to go out and explore their beliefs (the LDS church discourages anyone from finding truth from various sources) because I believe that any exploring for truth and love will lead to one thing: Jesus, and Him alone. Go ahead--read any kind of religious literature that you want! I believe that once you get to the Bible, you will see that it is the one true word of God.

Thanks for sharing your info!

 
At Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:24:00 AM, Blogger Unknown said...

Absolutely fantastic blog, sir. You've obviously attracted the attention of some seriously deranged, brainwashed tools as well. This is not only a cult but a terrorist organization seeking to overthrow the US government. This should be a genuine concern when we have a declared presidential "front-runner" who is a "devout" Mormon cultist.

A "religion" started by a criminal scam artist that changes its tenants on a whim, requires oaths of suicide to its members, and demands their time, wealth and resources to completely own them.

Mormons are the creepiest, most robot and brainwashed people I have ever encountered. Their minds are completely dominated and they have no idea how sick they are and in what bondage they are in.

The government perhaps should be as if not more concerned about the treasonous evil brewing within the Mormon church's tax-exempt empire as it is with rogue muslim zealots of the middle east.

 

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