Saturday, August 20, 2005

Is the Mormon Church crumbling?!!

I've already had a Family member and a best friend warn me that it was prophesied in the last days that even the very elect would be deceived. They ask me, "How do I know that I'm not just being deceived? First I try not to laugh, then I ask them, "who prophesied that?" Of course, they have no idea. It's a Mormon Doctrine, folklore, just like Salt Lake will be the wickedest city in the world, blah, blah, blah. Then I say that the Bible warns of False Prophets in the last days that will lead people astray and "how do they know that Joseph Smith and Hinckley aren't false Prophets?" Of course, that burning in their bosom is what tells them it's true!! Forget common sense, study or knowledge, it's all about warm fuzzy feelings.

I just mess with them because of course, they are "TBM's"(Truly Blinded Mormons) and wouldn't know the truth if it smacked them in the head. Hinckley could marry two women today in the middle of State street and they'd believe it was commanded of God. I tell them that I will pray and fast for them, that they will be able to find out the Church is!! Then, like my best friend, they usually bear their testimony to me. It's hard to keep a straight face when they keep saying I know this and I know that, when I used to say the same thing. I just find humor in how sure I was and how sure they are now when they won't even look at any evidence at all. They really think that they can bring me back to the "truth" and that I'm being deceived by Satan. Of course, they don't want to hear a thing about what I've discovered about the Church, because they know it's true, God told them so. Anyway, we can only hope that with the Internet and word of mouth, etc, it will just keep spreading, the growth slowing,etc.

Whoever said that the growth was slowing more outside of the US is correct I believe. After all, that's where all of the explosive growth came from in the 80's and 90's, South & Central America especially. However, now that well is beginning to dry up. Maybe they need to hit the sun and the moon to start baptizing those people. In my former area that I was in that was supposed to grow so much, still has a branch in each city and is still a District. In another area where I was, the Branch is gone!! I was in a big city that was made a stake right before I left and it still is a Stake with 6 wards and the activity is awful. This was a city that had over 6,500 members of record and on a good week right now, they get around 300 combined in all the wards or about 50 a ward which is what it was when I left.

It has been over a decade since I left, so with all the baptisms in the last 10+ years, they have the same number of people coming to Church each week. Not a good sign if the Morg thinks they are growing. I'm sure this is the case in many places, especially in South & Central America, as we learned from the Census Stats. The Church has been banging the drum of baptisms for decades, bragging about their growth, filling the earth like that rock and if that starts to really dry up, well, everyone will begin to take note, especially the current members. It's already happening in South and Central America.

It's a long process, but little by little, the Church will continue to shrink. It certainly peaked in the late 80's to mid 90's and I honestly feel that they will never see those days again. The Church will most likely exist forever but what size will it be? Of course, we already know that the 12,250,000 that they claim as members is over inflated dramatically and that at the most, 3,000,000- 4,000,000, are active. That doesn't bode well for their future if they plan to grow to 50,000,000 or 100,000,000, etc. It will never happen as long as things continue as they currently are. Now if they dig up the hill Cumorah and find billions of bones and millions of breastplates, swords, helmets, etc, that would be another matter, but as we all know here, that isn't gonna happen either.

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At Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:13:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because of people like you so many other people get lost. You try so hard to show that the church is not true, that right there we find the evidence that the church is TRUE!! why would you care so much if it wasn´t? and you also said you feel like laughing when people bear their testimonies (even your best friend!)well I want to see who will laugh last at the judgment day!

At Wednesday, March 07, 2007 9:46:00 AM, Anonymous Li Chang Yuan said...

I can't believe I am even wasting my time with this, but I couldn't let such a weak premise go unchallenged.

You mentioned a few current details (if even accurate) of an area in which you served your mission and make a general assumption globally that the growth of the Mormon Church is slowing. In fact you said, "...but little by little, the Church will continue to shrink."

You neglected to consider the growth of the church in other regions of South America including Brazil and Peru. What about the growth in Asia. Taiwan, for example, has had tremendous growth in the last 5 to 10 years.

Your seeming intellectual prowess is blinded by the single-sided approach to your life's goal. In all of your efforts to discredit the Mormon church, have you ever taken the time to pen your current belief in God, the purpose of life, and any of the other common questions that motivate individuals to turn to religion as a means to find their answers? In other words, now that you don't believe in the doctrine of the Mormons, what do you believe?

At Sunday, July 15, 2007 10:28:00 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hallelujah! and Praise the Lord as the truth will set you free and I see that you are Free indeed!!! Me

At Wednesday, November 07, 2007 5:19:00 PM, Anonymous Nathan said...

22 For in those days there shall also arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch, that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect, who are the elect according to the covenant.
23 Behold, I speak these things unto you for the elect’s sake; and you also shall hear of wars, and rumors of wars; see that ye be not troubled, for all I have told you must come to pass; but the end is not yet. (Matthew 1, JST)

You may not agree with it but you are wrong to assume it is Mormon folklore. For someone that went on a mission and spent so much time supposedly committing your life to it, you don't know it very well. I think your problem may have stemmed from looking for problems instead of answers.

At Monday, February 04, 2008 8:54:00 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alma 24: 30
30 And thus we can plainly discern, that after a people have been once enlightened by the Spirit of God, and have had great knowledge of things pertaining to righteousness, and then have fallen away into sin and transgression, they become more hardened, and thus their state becomes worse than though they had never known these things.


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